gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
Looks like you'll have some company, and if you can catch Team White you can always stick with them (and try and do them on the line)...
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Looks like you'll have some company, and if you can catch Team White you can always stick with them (and try and do them on the line)...
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
Tonight's Handicap Chase is a special Handicap Team Time Trial
Course is Pico Peñas de Dios - http://www.bkool.com/profile/detail/90248?durationType=DISTANCE&lapCount=1
I will start the warmup close to 7:50pm BST (UTC+1) to ensure the race starts around 8pm BST (UTC+1).
Please use Time Underway to judge when to join the session, as below.
Team White - Start Time Underway=0:00 - @bert1971 @Goldwolfie @JLaw @rob01792 @theboxers @Gaileb @Whorty
Team Green - Start Time Underway=1:30 - @Monte @berty bassett @Insomina @Soarerv8 @bazzer99
Team Not Red - Start Time Underway=5:30 - @Add @CXRAndy @kipster @Rod McG @TurboTommy
Team Blue - Start Time Underway=9:10 - @BILL S @bobinski @bridgy @LBHIFI @AAAC 76C
If anyone else wants to take part, please can you let us know here and we can work out the most suitable Team.
Course is Pico Peñas de Dios - http://www.bkool.com/profile/detail/90248?durationType=DISTANCE&lapCount=1
I will start the warmup close to 7:50pm BST (UTC+1) to ensure the race starts around 8pm BST (UTC+1).
Please use Time Underway to judge when to join the session, as below.
Team White - Start Time Underway=0:00 - @bert1971 @Goldwolfie @JLaw @rob01792 @theboxers @Gaileb @Whorty
Team Green - Start Time Underway=1:30 - @Monte @berty bassett @Insomina @Soarerv8 @bazzer99
Team Not Red - Start Time Underway=5:30 - @Add @CXRAndy @kipster @Rod McG @TurboTommy
Team Blue - Start Time Underway=9:10 - @BILL S @bobinski @bridgy @LBHIFI @AAAC 76C
If anyone else wants to take part, please can you let us know here and we can work out the most suitable Team.
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
The great thing about tonight's ride for all us man cold/flu, sniveling, snot ridden participants is that we can just blast through our symptoms, sneezing, coughing and, err, clearing our noses as we go along, because its nearly all down hill
. We are hardly hindered or penalised by pausing in pedaling to blow our noses etc because our bikes will keep rolling in our little virtual world of pain and phlegm
.
. We are hardly hindered or penalised by pausing in pedaling to blow our noses etc because our bikes will keep rolling in our little virtual world of pain and phlegm.
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
i will try but viewing past shambles i aint really to be relied on
no cold or flu symptoms here, just very tired after a few long days at work last week and a poorly dog over the weekend letting me know when she wanted to be let out in the garden (2:30am , 4:30am , 6:30am)
TeamSpeak server is online if anyone wants to check their set ups.
TeamSpeak server is online if anyone wants to check their set ups.
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
I'm feeling pretty rough with a cold - I am still planning to be at the race tonight unless I feel even worse later, but don't know how hard I'll be able to push, so apologies in advance Team Blue if I'm a bit crap tonight. Is it just me, @BILL S and @bobinski tonight as LBHIFI can't make it? Or is AAAC stepping into Team Blue kit tonight?[/QUOTE
Given your recent rides bridgy i am not expecting a little cold to hold you back, just to level the playing field for the rest of us
Given your recent rides bridgy i am not expecting a little cold to hold you back, just to level the playing field for the rest of us
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
Looking at the Weight Handicap idea, aiming to get everyone to 4 Watts/Kg gives an interesting range of weights. 
It should make for a fun ride!
I was thinking of stage 5 from the spring sessions, which is basically all uphill, or perhaps something Alpe D'Huez, to avoid the more severe gradients that max out the trainers resistance.
The thing is, the real powerful guys like AAAC, Bridgy, Adam and Bill end up with a weight around 90-100 Kg, which should give them a sense of what it is like for the mountain moose's, and the big guys get to go with weights around 60-70 Kg or even lighter, so they should fly up the hills!
Since everyone will start together and theoretically be able to make the same watts/Kg then most riders should be bunched together the entire ride!
Trying to anticipate the short comings with the handicap principle, I guess at higher gradients, the resistance will max out for the big power guys, and they will be able to go faster than their Handicapped weight would normally allow. Pushing 100 Kg up 20% at 400 watts should definitely overcome the poor bkool trainer's resistance.
However, at low gradients, weight is much less of a factor, so the higher total watts will again give the big power producers an advantage.
To keep things close, I would presume needs a gradient within the bkool's resistance range for anything up to 100 kg, but high enough to make weight and gravity the deciding factor. Say around 8-9%?
I did wonder if multiple laps of the Merry Harriers would do it? A bit dull perhaps?
At 4 watts/kg it should take around 8 minutes each climb, so 4 laps would take 32 minutes?
EDIT: Perhaps 3 laps to keep the time below 30 minutes and avoid mucking with fitness levels?
Geoff
It should make for a fun ride!
I was thinking of stage 5 from the spring sessions, which is basically all uphill, or perhaps something Alpe D'Huez, to avoid the more severe gradients that max out the trainers resistance.
The thing is, the real powerful guys like AAAC, Bridgy, Adam and Bill end up with a weight around 90-100 Kg, which should give them a sense of what it is like for the mountain moose's, and the big guys get to go with weights around 60-70 Kg or even lighter, so they should fly up the hills!
Since everyone will start together and theoretically be able to make the same watts/Kg then most riders should be bunched together the entire ride!
Trying to anticipate the short comings with the handicap principle, I guess at higher gradients, the resistance will max out for the big power guys, and they will be able to go faster than their Handicapped weight would normally allow. Pushing 100 Kg up 20% at 400 watts should definitely overcome the poor bkool trainer's resistance.
However, at low gradients, weight is much less of a factor, so the higher total watts will again give the big power producers an advantage.
To keep things close, I would presume needs a gradient within the bkool's resistance range for anything up to 100 kg, but high enough to make weight and gravity the deciding factor. Say around 8-9%?
I did wonder if multiple laps of the Merry Harriers would do it? A bit dull perhaps?
At 4 watts/kg it should take around 8 minutes each climb, so 4 laps would take 32 minutes?
EDIT: Perhaps 3 laps to keep the time below 30 minutes and avoid mucking with fitness levels?
Geoff
Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
Sorry guys, without sounding like a right ol tart. I've been trying to convince myself I ll be alright but I'm bailing out and opting for bath/bed option. Sorry team white.
well I'm in for team white might be on my own but I'm sure @theboxers will be in
Don't tempt me!! Hope you feel better soon bert
theboxers
TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
- Location
- OTC (on the couch)
Oh heck it looks like my time will count 
Ok, so that's 9 minutes and 10 seconds time elapsed - definitely not 10 past 9!! Got it....
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
i was with you right up to " looking at the weight handicap idea "Looking at the Weight Handicap idea, aiming to get everyone to 4 Watts/Kg gives an interesting range of weights.
It should make for a fun ride!
I was thinking of stage 5 from the spring sessions, which is basically all uphill, or perhaps something Alpe D'Huez, to avoid the more severe gradients that max out the trainers resistance.
The thing is, the real powerful guys like AAAC, Bridgy, Adam and Bill end up with a weight around 90-100 Kg, which should give them a sense of what it is like for the mountain moose's, and the big guys get to go with weights around 60-70 Kg or even lighter, so they should fly up the hills!
Since everyone will start together and theoretically be able to make the same watts/Kg then most riders should be bunched together the entire ride!
Trying to anticipate the short comings with the handicap principle, I guess at higher gradients, the resistance will max out for the big power guys, and they will be able to go faster than their Handicapped weight would normally allow. Pushing 100 Kg up 20% at 400 watts should definitely overcome the poor bkool trainer's resistance.
However, at low gradients, weight is much less of a factor, so the higher total watts will again give the big power producers an advantage.
To keep things close, I would presume needs a gradient within the bkool's resistance range for anything up to 100 kg, but high enough to make weight and gravity the deciding factor. Say around 8-9%?
I did wonder if multiple laps of the Merry Harriers would do it? A bit dull perhaps?
At 4 watts/kg it should take around 8 minutes each climb, so 4 laps would take 32 minutes?
EDIT: Perhaps 3 laps to keep the time below 30 minutes and avoid mucking with fitness levels?
Geoff
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