Team BKool CycleChat

[bobinski]

Bworrrck, bock, bock

theboxers, thats' a terrible cough you have there...you be careful if you are riding tonight

 

[theboxers]

theboxers, thats' a terrible cough you have there...you be careful if you are riding tonight

I am now back up and running. The PSU for the cable modem died last night (I've been tethering to the mobile all morning) and I had to go to work to get a replacement .

But hey, at least I should be on the starting line tonight. I may regret it, but I should be there .

 

[theboxers]

I had the Bkool team phone me up, run teamviewer and remotely check my unit and they said its fine. They installed the latest firmware which I didn't know there was one (nor have I check version numbers in fairness)
The box hill ride I did recently is here https://www.strava.com/activities/715479537

What version did they install? You can view it in bsim, go to settings/about bkool indoor/sensors/

 

[bobinski]

I had the Bkool team phone me up, run teamviewer and remotely check my unit and they said its fine. They installed the latest firmware which I didn't know there was one (nor have I check version numbers in fairness)
The box hill ride I did recently is here https://www.strava.com/activities/715479537

Have you done one in zwift? I think that is a bkool ride and only tied by 60 or so riders rather than the 15000 who have tried in Zwift where i am somewhere around 3500th

my most recent is below for comparison:


7:25 PM on Monday, September 19, 2016
Zwift - London, UK 09/19/2016

• 

9

View Flybys

• 11.3mi

• 35:52

• 676ft

• 25

• 243W

• 399kJ

Avg Max
Speed 19.0mi/h 45.2mi/h
Heart Rate 133bpm 179bpm
Cadence 76 132
Power 185W 808W
Calories 444
Elapsed Time 35:52
Bike: —
TOP
RESULTS

• PR on Northumberland Ave - Going Up (35s)
• PR on London 8 from start to KOM (29:45)
• 2nd fastest time on Box Hill (Zig Zag) (6:41)

https://www.strava.com/activities/718052929/segments/17622550716

 

[rob01792]

Yep I did it this morning in 39mins 44secs and followed it up with the short league ride up the Col de Madxxxx. That ride is showing in my activities but the velodrome ride hasn't appeared which is a pity as I think I averaged about 340 watts so would probably be due a promotion. Of course it may appear later.

well done did u notice that the cool down ride I joined in on Tuesday evening after the handicap as gone missing

 

[theboxers]

well done did u notice that the cool down ride I joined in on Tuesday evening after the handicap as gone missing

I'm missing my tuesday cool down ride as well (did a PB on it), sort of. I have a listing for an attempt on descenso col d'Izoard in my favourites list but not in my activity. When you click on the link in my attempts it says the page is unavailable . A mail has been sent to bkool and I'm awaiting a full response as they just replied that they were having issues and some services were not available . I'll give it a week to settle down then resend my mail .

 

[Paul-T]

Apologies, not sure if I will be home in time. I hadn't planned on still being in work as I write this. Failing that will try on Saturday's 5pm venture.

 

[gbrown]

Just done Chapel Fell..

Erm..

@Jim Brown

It's a bit hard to understand your result on Chapel Fell, as you produced more power than I had allowed for (240.4 Normalized) so your handicap was if anything very slightly too low, but your time was what I would have expected you to get with that power at your full weight.

Did you change your weight on the bkool web site before starting the simulator, or remember to restart the simulator after changing it? I wonder if somehow the simulator has used your normal weight, but then the web site has recorded the session with your lowered weight?

I think I have seen this before, where people seem to be much slower than their power and handicap weight would lead you to expect, when compared with the other riders.

For example, Goldwolfie was riding at 44 Kg at a Normalized 247.1 Watts, you were set to 42 Kg at 240.4 Watts (within 3% of the same power)

GW's graph shows 247 watts giving around 22 Kmph

Your graph shows 224 Watts giving 12.6 Kmph at much the same point, around half the speed I would expect, almost as if you were twice the weight!

I think you were riding at your full weight, but bkool then logged the ride on the web site against your lowered handicap weight!

Perhaps another bkool glitch, that allows your to ride simulated at one weight but logs the ride with another?

EDIT: This may explain why some people only sometimes find themselves less than competitive in the Handicap rides and other times they do much better. If the normal weight and the handicap weight are not too different, it might be hard to detect you are riding at the full weight. We need to try and work out how to make sure the simulator uses the lowered weight every time.

Geoff

 

[gbrown]

@CXRAndy I see you rode Chapel Fell again on a bkool pro. Looks like your were credited much the same power but went 1 minute faster than on the KICKR!

 

[JLaw]

I'm missing my tuesday cool down ride as well (did a PB on it), sort of. I have a listing for an attempt on descenso col d'Izoard in my favourites list but not in my activity. When you click on the link in my attempts it says the page is unavailable . A mail has been sent to bkool and I'm awaiting a full response as they just replied that they were having issues and some services were not available . I'll give it a week to settle down then resend my mail .

Same thing happened to me with last night's climb up City Creek. Set a PB in the virtual world, but the ride doesn't show up in my history, but I can find it in "My Attempts" -- but there's no deal other than the time. Yet another bkool glitch.

On a happier note, this weekend race (Snowbird Hillclimb) in the real world got postponed due to expected snow. While I think I'm ready to beat my last attempt (2008 1:18:xx), I wasn't looking forward to climbing up in the near-freezing temperatures. It's been rescheduled for next weekend, which looks like much more cooperative weather.

 

[theboxers]

@CXRAndy I see you rode Chapel Fell again on a bkool pro. Looks like your were credited much the same power but went 1 minute faster than on the KICKR!

This is starting to get frustrating . You can in the stages view, in a league, attempts made by yourself and others. Not having this is a bit annoying as I sometimes looked at where I was losing ground so I could try to improve .

 

[Bored Man]

@Jim Brown

It's a bit hard to understand your result on Chapel Fell, as you produced more power than I had allowed for (240.4 Normalized) so your handicap was if anything very slightly too low, but your time was what I would have expected you to get with that power at your full weight.

Did you change your weight on the bkool web site before starting the simulator, or remember to restart the simulator after changing it? I wonder if somehow the simulator has used your normal weight, but then the web site has recorded the session with your lowered weight?

I think I have seen this before, where people seem to be much slower than their power and handicap weight would lead you to expect, when compared with the other riders.

For example, Goldwolfie was riding at 44 Kg at a Normalized 247.1 Watts, you were set to 42 Kg at 240.4 Watts (within 3% of the same power)

GW's graph shows 247 watts giving around 22 Kmph

View attachment 144978

Your graph shows 224 Watts giving 12.6 Kmph at much the same point, around half the speed I would expect, almost as if you were twice the weight!

View attachment 144980

I think you were riding at your full weight, but bkool then logged the ride on the web site against your lowered handicap weight!

Perhaps another bkool glitch, that allows your to ride simulated at one weight but logs the ride with another?

EDIT: This may explain why some people only sometimes find themselves less than competitive in the Handicap rides and other times they do much better. If the normal weight and the handicap weight are not too different, it might be hard to detect you are riding at the full weight. We need to try and work out how to make sure the simulator uses the lowered weight every time.

Geoff

Hi Geoff

thanks for analysing my data without laughing.. lord my legs were rubbish.. still like custard now..

I did set my weight to your suggestion however..... I didn't reset the sim..

ill get it right next time..

cheers

 

[TobiC]

I did this one but the results got flagged by the race organizer. Think I would have come 5th over all
https://www.strava.com/activities/702833873

Have you done one in zwift? I think that is a bkool ride and only tied by 60 or so riders rather than the 15000 who have tried in Zwift where i am somewhere around 3500th

my most recent is below for comparison:


7:25 PM on Monday, September 19, 2016
Zwift - London, UK 09/19/2016

• 

9

View Flybys

• 11.3mi

• 35:52

• 676ft

• 25

• 243W

• 399kJ

Avg Max
Speed 19.0mi/h 45.2mi/h
Heart Rate 133bpm 179bpm
Cadence 76 132
Power 185W 808W
Calories 444
Elapsed Time 35:52
Bike: —
TOP
RESULTS

• PR on Northumberland Ave - Going Up (35s)
• PR on London 8 from start to KOM (29:45)
• 2nd fastest time on Box Hill (Zig Zag) (6:41)

https://www.strava.com/activities/718052929/segments/17622550716

 

[Whorty]

Just noticed that @ryan took 54 mins to complete tonights ride at a power of 5.26 watts/kg .... Looks like IF I complete the stage tonight it will be after a 2 hour plus sweat fest with feelings of thrown in See you all on the start line ... won't be seeing many of you after that as you'll all be off in the distance

If anyone wants to draft with me tonight at the back of the race, feel free to help me

 

[Bored Man]

I'm going to give it a bash Whorty.. what can possibly go wrong?