Well, disaster struck again for me tonight - logged on early to allow some time for the bkool update, well it was taking ages so I thought I have to cancel this otherwise I'm going to mbe so the start of the ride. Did everything as normal, searched for Bill S in the filter, saw the ride with 16 riders online but when I went into the ride it was only actually showing 4 riders, repeated several times with the same thing happening so I thought let's just get on with it, Runar was there but had a minute on me in the first 4 miles and then it completely froze on me around 10 miles into the ride. Almost pressed the cancel subscription straight away, but logged on again and the update happened really quickly - maybe just maybe it could have been my fault for leaving the update too late