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bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Yes. My LBS owner in Sitka has a condo here and recommended some great trails. I am not really a mountain biker and they are a whole lot tougher than I thought. I am sore all over. I can't even imagine Bill S doing 24 hours of single track at the Strathpuffer race. That's crazy.
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I have just looked the Strathpuffer up:ohmy: Bill, are you:crazy:
The length of it, the monotony of short circuits. And did i mention the weather?!? It will snow, lots:snowball:

You must be entering your tapering stage now Bill, so expecting you to go easy tomorrow night;)
 

kipster

Guru
Location
Hampshire
Lol. My fault partially as I fixed my 'bkool' bike yesterday which seems to be faster than Gails bike, which we've both been using for the past few days instead.

I encouraged Gail to give it another go to see what difference the bike makes. Turns out it's quite a bit! :tongue:

I'll pass on your message to Gail. :okay:
I keep thinking I need a different bike for the turbo, I currently use a heavy old cyclocross / commuter bike with very naff Shimano gears (8 speed).

I might try my sons super stiff race bike on the turbo with its 11 speed set up to see if it gives any improvement, or just proves that i'm limited by my legs
 

RickB

professional procrastinator
Location
Norn Iron
Tyres and tyre pressure seem to be the big factors. I pumped the tyres on Gails bike as hard as I dared but the 23 width tyres of the old Commencal Colt definitely roll better. Quite grippy too - can't remember off hand what make they are but they seem to work well on bkool.
 
I keep thinking I need a different bike for the turbo, I currently use a heavy old cyclocross / commuter bike with very naff Shimano gears (8 speed).

I might try my sons super stiff race bike on the turbo with its 11 speed set up to see if it gives any improvement, or just proves that i'm limited by my legs

When I first got the Bkool I set it up with a mtb and used a slick rear tyre.
After a week or two I got around to putting an old 8 speed road bike on the trainer, I couldn't believe how much quicker the road bike was.

The only real difference between the bikes is the wheel size and the tyre. Yet the road bike gave me a good 50 watts more power on the flat.
 

RickB

professional procrastinator
Location
Norn Iron
Oh, oh the wifes signed up to cyclechat - better behave myself! :surrender:

Anyway, got a reply from Bkool referring to the 'pulse' technique as follows:

Hi Richard,

Thanks for your message. We are aware of this bug. Our software/web developers are working on it, we hope it will be fixed soon. Thanks so much for the information.
 

Gaileb

Senior Member
Location
Cookstown
:hugs:
Oh, oh the wifes signed up to cyclechat - better behave myself! :surrender:

Anyway, got a reply from Bkool referring to the 'pulse' technique as follows:

Hi Richard,
:hugs:

Thanks for your message. We are aware of this bug. Our software/web developers are working on it, we hope it will be fixed soon. Thanks so much for the information.
All the better to keep an eye on you!:hugs::crazy:
 
Well don't feel like you need to challenge me lol. Don't think I could do it again! :heat:
It wasn't a direct challenge I'm still working out the bkool thing and wanted to ride with a ghost for the company!
Well done anyway
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
The only real difference between the bikes is the wheel size and the tyre. Yet the road bike gave me a good 50 watts more power on the flat.

The road bike didn't give you Watts, more it didn't rob you of them.
Mountain bikes are designed to adsorb a certain amount of energy in order to smooth out the bumps and crashes but they don't care where they actualy adsorb it from.
Big tyres and low pressures = high rolling restistance subject to the surface they are being used on.
I say the latter because the Road Racing fraternity is moving away from super skinny 23mm or smaller tyres to 25mm as they ride over road surface deviations more easily i.e. lower rolling resistance where as thoeretically on a smooth road the skinny higher pressure tyre should be better.
That said based on the UK road surface perhaps we should all be using MTB tyres on the road.
However a turbo is a constant smooth suface, all be it very round so the skiny tyre high pressure is the way to go.
This will also generate a lot of localised heat in the tread because all of that contact is on a very narrow footprint, all be it its generation is reduced due the lower rolling resistance, hence the production by some tyre companies of turbo specific tyres.
I was steadily loosing power in my early Bkool days and I thought I was over training unitl I realised the tread on my tyre was almost totally debonded but sprung back into palce when stopped but while riding the edges where flapping out and causing drag both by acting like an air brake and rubbing on the turbo roller
 
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Bonno

Guru
Location
Tiptree
I had my first video published, the down hill ride of Snow Canyon and Jon Bon already set a record.

And a great course it was... not a hill in sight :okay:
Did it as a warm up for the Bkool event last night as it came up 'Live' didn't realise it was new.
It was all over pretty quick and I was more concerned about the guy behind catching me, but from what I could see through the sweat in my eyes, some of the sections looked seriously gravelly !
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
I pumped the tyres on Gails bike as hard as I dared but the 23

The, sorry to say, Halfords turbo tyre (cheap £10) that I just destroyed was a 23mm and I was running that at 140PSI (max recommended pressure) and its probably one of the 'fastest' tyres I used on the turbo.
I gone back to my Continental Home Trainer tyre now and that has a max recommended pressure of 120PSI and is not quite as quick as the Halfords one.
I also have a shocking red Zaffira Turbo Tyre which I never really liked both asthetically and 'perceived' rolling resistance.
Tacx due a lovely blue creation but I have never tried one of those.
 

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
The, sorry to say, Halfords turbo tyre (cheap £10) that I just destroyed was a 23mm and I was running that at 140PSI (max recommended pressure) and its probably one of the 'fastest' tyres I used on the turbo.
I gone back to my Continental Home Trainer tyre now and that has a max recommended pressure of 120PSI and is not quite as quick as the Halfords one.
I also have a shocking red Zaffira Turbo Tyre which I never really liked both asthetically and 'perceived' rolling resistance.
Tacx due a lovely blue creation but I have never tried one of those.
I had an Halfords one put on this last weekend, and they told me max pressure was 90, which mine is pumped to. It's not 'rock' hard, but is very firm.
 
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