Team BKool CycleChat

[Baldo Mero]

View attachment 115732 so think I have a problem with my bkool or I need to get ready for this year's tour de France 1116 watts have emailed bkool and team sky

Your real problem? 0 bpms, not alive.

 

[LBHIFI]

I'll send them an email explaining roughly how we do it and, if it's OK with you bill, I'll send a link to your 51 minute ride for them to see. Be interesting to see how they respond to this one!

I have noticed that it takes some time for the resistance to kick in when we take off from start, but I wouldn't have imagined that repeating this start-sprint could pay off. I would have thought that one would be wasting to much time waiting to return to "start-mode", while the others powered away.
I'm training for a goal in the real world, so I won't fool my self by riding that style, but it annoys me that it's possible.
Sending the link to Bill's ride is a really good idea, and maybe add the we are a whole community rather than just on person.

 

[RickB]

I have noticed that it takes some time for the resistance to kick in when we take off from start, but I wouldn't have imagined that repeating this start-sprint could pay off. I would have thought that one would be wasting to much time waiting to return to "start-mode", while the others powered away.
I'm training for a goal in the real world, so I won't fool my self by riding that style, but it annoys me that it's possible.
Sending the link to Bill's ride is a really good idea, and maybe add the we are a whole community rather than just on person.

Exactly. They are very aware of the cyclechat community theses days! I've been pestering then about the ghost issue too.

I mentioned that it was the cyclechat group that have discovered this and gave them the link to Bill's ride as a sample. I hope I don't get a generic answer as this is a real interesting one for them I'm sure

 

[bobinski]

So the latest firmware/SW updates drives your BKool to work in an ANT+ FEC profile and this profile is what I didn't think existed i.e. a kind of international standard.
As I don't have this then I assume I am using a previous ANT+ interface and perhaps that is why I seem unaffected by these 'features' and hence unable to replicate the on/off 'style'.

The ANT+fec profile enables in theory all trainers to run in all compatible software on a levelish playing field. I think. You go into settings to manually enable ant fec. So I enable ant etc for Zwift but disable for bkool. Now perhaps the answer is for bkool turbos to run on its ant+ fec allowing all others too as well? Glitch sorted would not that level the playing field?

 

[JLaw]

I rode a different cottonwood canyon today. View attachment 115739

Is that down in St. George?

 

[rob01792]

I feel like I have stirred up a hornets nest and put some divide into the Cycle Chat members, this was not intended as I have no real concern how others do thier thing so long as they are gaining a 'well being' advantage from it.

I don't think you have I think by u playing with the unit and working out what was going on and bill putting it to the test is going to help
I for 1 will work on it to improve my spinning which im always struggling with but ive only been cycling 7 months
it the league set up by this group that keeps us motivated and we need to keep it as near as possible level for all

 

[Brendan Parker]

GailB you killed me last night trying to beat your ghost for you to only go and smash it today!

 

[RickB]

GailB you killed me last night trying to beat your ghost for you to only go and smash it today!

Lol. My fault partially as I fixed my 'bkool' bike yesterday which seems to be faster than Gails bike, which we've both been using for the past few days instead.

I encouraged Gail to give it another go to see what difference the bike makes. Turns out it's quite a bit!

I'll pass on your message to Gail.

 

[Brendan Parker]

Lol. My fault partially as I fixed my 'bkool' bike yesterday which seems to be faster than Gails bike, which we've both been using for the past few days instead.

I encouraged Gail to give it another go to see what difference the bike makes. Turns out it's quite a bit!

I'll pass on your message to Gail.

If you could put your other bike back on it would be much appreciated hahahah

 

[RickB]

If you could put your other bike back on it would be much appreciated hahahah

Lol no chance now. Gails well pleased with herself

 

[BILL S]

I feel like I have stirred up a hornets nest and put some divide into the Cycle Chat members, this was not intended as I have no real concern how others do thier thing so long as they are gaining a 'well being' advantage from it.

Naa, as Rob says I don't think you or anyone else has stirred up any hornets nests. Bkool may think that I have, but really I and you and everyone else here just wants to help them to have as good a product as possible, admittedly for our own enjoyment rather than their profitability.
Definitely no divide here as we all want the same. Some of us just a bit more interfering than others perhaps .

 

[RickB]

Naa, as Rob says I don't think you or anyone else has stirred up any hornets nests. Bkool may think that I have, but really I and you and everyone else here just wants to help them to have as good a product as possible, admittedly for our own enjoyment rather than their profitability.
Definitely no divide here as we all want the same. Some of us just a bit more interfering than others perhaps .

We're all one big happy (dysfunctional) family

I dont think anyone would really want to sit doing the pulsing method during their sessions anyway - its very interesting to find these things out but I'm sure, as someone said yesterday, we just want to train and ride our bikes in a way that as close as possible replicates the outside world.

I think the main aggro recently comes from Bkools lack of proper implementation for other trainers.

 

[theboxers]

Lol no chance now. Gails well pleased with herself

oh oh GW and I have competition now

 

[Insomina]

I dont think anyone would really want to sit doing the pulsing method during their sessions anyway

Calling it 'pulsing' actually makes it sound like a recognised techique.

 

[Randyberlin]

Is that down in St. George?

Yes. My LBS owner in Sitka has a condo here and recommended some great trails. I am not really a mountain biker and they are a whole lot tougher than I thought. I am sore all over. I can't even imagine Bill S doing 24 hours of single track at the Strathpuffer race. That's crazy.
I had my first video published, the down hill ride of Snow Canyon and Jon Bon already set a record.