Havent tried this myself - but at a guess I'm thinking the two conflict with each other as the Bkool trainer produces speed info over Ant+, which must conflict with the Speed sensor. I do occasionally use a HRM but thats the only extra I have.
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Baldo Mero
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HI there, new here from Spain. I rode with you yesterday night just by chance, not a member of the league but it was a convenient time and distance. It was fun guys! One thing to notice, I agree with westmatix about the insane downhill speed that some of you guys with a Bkool trainer reach. I also ride a vortex smart, I didn't give it all out during downhills but I was going pretty fast and several riders that I had past earlier just removed my stickers. Now checking the data I see that they were pumping the same watts or less than me. So I think that there is a significant bias on the trainer used, I will ride with a gun and shoot anyone passing me downhill segments from now on! 
Hope to see you around some other time!
Hope to see you around some other time!ginormousgiant
Active Member
I guessed that but I've read that a separate speed sensor is more accurate than the trainer so there should be a way to pair it.
Rob H
Eat, Sleep, Climb, Repeat
You cant use speed sensor as its part the calculation on bkool software.
Ive also had bkool pick up a speed sensor as cadence... This is on the software. TR i use a speed sensor to get distance
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
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That does sound different, I'm not sure why the speed should turn blue on an uphill section, it indicates that it is using some kind of algorithm to give you a speed higher than the mechanical speed you are achieving.
Geoff
HI there, new here from Spain. I rode with you yesterday night just by chance, not a member of the league but it was a convenient time and distance. It was fun guys! One thing to notice, I agree with westmatix about the insane downhill speed that some of you guys with a Bkool trainer reach. I also ride a vortex smart, I didn't give it all out during downhills but I was going pretty fast and several riders that I had past earlier just removed my stickers. Now checking the data I see that they were pumping the same watts or less than me. So I think that there is a significant bias on the trainer used, I will ride with a gun and shoot anyone passing me downhill segments from now on!
Nice to have had you on board for the race. Feel free to sign up for the leagues if it suits you to do it most Thursdays! Some of the guys were talking about different trainers behaving very differently than Bkools own trainers. not exactly an even playing field. maybe email Bkool to see if they can program weapons into the gameplay.
call of Duty on Bikes!
Or just buy a Bkool
I'm sure that's what they would love everybody to doOr just buy a Bkool
I take that back. If I can do that I'll win the freak'n thing
.I finished yesterdays chain gang session and did some 300 watt intervals on the straights and it's just not right. I'm gonna have to get hold of a friend with a power meter to se if it's me or the trainer that needs fixing.
I was chasing Ricks ghost, but even during my intervals he pulled away. It looks like I go about 4 kph slower at the same watts on the straights.
I also saw what happened on the downhill: If I spin the speed up beyond 65 kph, it turns blue and jumps down to 40 kph. I can only go faster than 65 kph if I let gravity do it for me.
HI there, new here from Spain. I rode with you yesterday night just by chance, not a member of the league but it was a convenient time and distance. It was fun guys! One thing to notice, I agree with westmatix about the insane downhill speed that some of you guys with a Bkool trainer reach. I also ride a vortex smart, I didn't give it all out during downhills but I was going pretty fast and several riders that I had past earlier just removed my stickers. Now checking the data I see that they were pumping the same watts or less than me. So I think that there is a significant bias on the trainer used, I will ride with a gun and shoot anyone passing me downhill segments from now on!
I have a friend that uses a tacx vortex, and his trainer is certainly a lot easier on the climbs than a bkool - for a start the max incline the tacx vortex reaches is 7% so anything above that the resistance doesn't change.
In the future I would like to see the online rides/races with a separate division/class with bkool trainers only.
dangateros
New Member
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I have just joined Bkool and have only been on a couple of rides but it has put me in Elite 4 due to a problem with the Wattage calculation.
How do I change it to a realistic rating? also how do I join a group?
How do I change it to a realistic rating? also how do I join a group?
burndust
Parts unknown...baby
My BKOOL trainer is off to pastures new guy came to collect it this morning...hoping to see him pop up in the leagues at some point he's a monster!....I decided against the vortex in the end...and opted to go back to the kickr 3rd time lucky...thank god for wiggles after sales...it arrived today had to swap the cassette over...trainer bike only 9 speed..all setup a ready to start indoor sessions again
My gut feeling is that there are so many variables, equipment and software wise, even with the same trainers there will be big discrepancies. I think you have to treat it as a game and certainly not an equal playing field, you would have to get on the road for a true comparison.
When I worked in the MOD there was always a tolerance variable with equipment, even using identical devices but a different one. Unless equipment is built to minute tolerances there are usually quite large discrepancies between them, I'm no expert on this kind of equipment but I'd be surprised if it was that accurate, especially given different mechanical set up as well as the technology.
Just my 2p worth but based on some of the testing we used to do, but as I said I'm no expert.
When I worked in the MOD there was always a tolerance variable with equipment, even using identical devices but a different one. Unless equipment is built to minute tolerances there are usually quite large discrepancies between them, I'm no expert on this kind of equipment but I'd be surprised if it was that accurate, especially given different mechanical set up as well as the technology.
Just my 2p worth but based on some of the testing we used to do, but as I said I'm no expert.
burndust
Parts unknown...baby
Instrument mechanic?
