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Slightly different view than Geoffs. I think it is Add catching up.

The resemblance to me is uncanny! I can only imagine you found this after searching for "bird with long legs", and it wasn't quite what you had in mind.
Did make me laugh. It's like some real life Roadrunner footage.

 

[berty bassett]

These are the official, adjusted results (Moving Time plus Start Time)

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Radical Handicap cuts for the first four!

These are the Moving Times

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Well done everyone, see you next week.

I wonder if doing this session three weeks in a row is such a good idea!

Geoff

i thought i beat kapelmuur !! have i been naughty and penalised - didnt mean to - and now i bet my time gets axed to rub salt in the wounds . i really enjoyed that , a steady uphill suits a lot better than downhill

 

[Roleur1]

On the road...

Berty Basset (just caught on the line...)
Kapelmuur
Insomnia (not far ahead of...)
BenH
Adski (neck and neck with) Bridgy (who both just caught...)
JLaw
Turbo Tommy (who sprinted past)
Ste
Bobinski
Bill S
Roleur1 (held off...)
CXRAndy
Soarerv8
Monte
Stuart
GailB (nabbed it at the line from...)
TheBoxers
Rob

Well done everyone, it was liking watching a bunch of guys being tortured in slow motion!

Well done everyone, it was liking watching a bunch of guys being tortured in slow motion! [/QUOTE]

Nope - caught CXR about 30 seconds to go and died a death trying to get to the line any way possible. Sorry Andy...I was feeling really rough and the gentlemanly thing to have done was to sit behind you and follow you in...felt like it......but no professional pride got the better of me again...plus a desperation for it to all end. That was really horrible.....bridgy, add, bill the bob all come past , all carrying big swords and taking a piece of me as they go......well done guys.

Off to Mallorca early thursday morning so see you all in two weekends time.

 

[CXRAndy]

Yesterday's climb, I decided to climb to a power figure, ignore the competition and see who was near in the last mile. I was tough but manageable. For the first time I actually felt the benefits of drafting behind Tommy. I took about 8 seconds in the draft and suddenly it was 30 watts easier, brief experience but worthwhile if you're on the ragged edge.

I can't yet see the details of the new challenges but look like they will suit the heavier powerful chaps. Well that's is the diet squashed, out come the cakes

 

[CXRAndy]

Well done everyone, it was liking watching a bunch of guys being tortured in slow motion!

Nope - caught CXR about 30 seconds to go and died a death trying to get to the line any way possible. Sorry Andy...I was feeling really rough and the gentlemanly thing to have done was to sit behind you and follow you in...felt like it......but no professional pride got the better of me again...plus a desperation for it to all end. That was really horrible.....bridgy, add, bill the bob all come past , all carrying big swords and taking a piece of me as they go......well done guys.

Off to Mallorca early thursday morning so see you all in two weekends time.[/QUOTE]

I saw you come by and thought if I could hold a constant power I could nip it at the line but alas. Have a good ride in Majorca

 

[Soarerv8]

Well that got me another best ftp 200.6W . 103% effort score. Not a lot more to give at any point on that climb .

You may have noticed that I do not take life too seriously. Never have and hopefully never will but this I do mean sincerely, very well done.

The camaraderie on here is fantastic the racing against other people is great fun made in my opinion even more fun by the handicap races but ultimately you are only racing one person and yesterday you beat him.

That ftp score shows that you are getting stronger and fitter and the hours of slogging away on a turbo are potentially adding years into your life.

Where you finish compared to everyone else matters little but the work you have done there is very impressive. Well done.

 

[Soarerv8]

That was awesome. Didn't have enough in the tank to hold off Adski & Bridgy at the end, but still managed to drop over a minute off the prior attempt -- significantly more watts but yet slightly easier on the HR, which I consider a positive (and back up to AM8).

Happy to run that course a few more times. Mild grades & relatively short course encourage over-reaching a bit, which is good.

Kept chasing you but you just didn't get any closer. Not sure if it is just me but mentally someone a minute up the road is uncatchable someone a minute behind is straight by me. Looks like I need more spinach.

 

[<Tommy>]

Strange one for me last night. I think there's a different psychology in going up a constant gradient. I was sort of worried that if I pushed too hard, there was no place to recover.

Part of me thinks I should try to intentionally blow up just to find my limit. I saw ste near the finish and put in 500w at the end to get past. Now I'm thinking maybe I could of pushed harder sooner.

Maybe I'm thinking too much...

 

[Soarerv8]

Strange one for me last night. I think there's a different psychology in going up a constant gradient. I was sort of worried that if I pushed too hard, there was no place to recover.

Part of me thinks I should try to intentionally blow up just to find my limit. I saw ste near the finish and put in 500w at the end to get past. Now I'm thinking maybe I could of pushed harder sooner.

Maybe I'm thinking too much...

Very much overrated that thinking, it is why Adam goes so quickly.

 

[CXRAndy]

Strange one for me last night. I think there's a different psychology in going up a constant gradient. I was sort of worried that if I pushed too hard, there was no place to recover.

Part of me thinks I should try to intentionally blow up just to find my limit. I saw ste near the finish and put in 500w at the end to get past. Now I'm thinking maybe I could of pushed harder sooner.
be a fine line
Maybe I'm thinking too much...

It can be a fine line, you can blow up as by going into the red and need to really slow down for a minute or two to recover or blow up and have nothing left and need to stop. I have done the former several times and once the latter, this being the worst by far. When getting into cycling I decided to go out unprepared and cycled too far into the countryside, Bonked and had to cycle 15 miles to the nearest city with a train and catch a lift. 15 miles at 10mph on the flat, I looked and felt terrible. Gor for it, maybe I can get pass and stay there

Btw I would kill to get the starting speed you Bkool trainers have

 

[Insomina]

Strange one for me last night. I think there's a different psychology in going up a constant gradient. I was sort of worried that if I pushed too hard, there was no place to recover.

Part of me thinks I should try to intentionally blow up just to find my limit. I saw ste near the finish and put in 500w at the end to get past. Now I'm thinking maybe I could of pushed harder sooner.

Maybe I'm thinking too much...

This is the battle in my head every ride - made worse by the HR conversation earlier in the day where I worked out my MAX HR is 172 which was also my average for the whole ride. I guess it means

1.my monitor is not working.
2.my age is wrong.
3. i am dead
4.220-age is bullshit.

I'm going 3 at the moment.

 

[<Tommy>]

This is the battle in my head every ride - made worse by the HR conversation earlier in the day where I worked out my MAX HR is 172 which was also my average for the whole ride. I guess it means

1.my monitor is not working.
2.my age is wrong.
3. i am dead
4.220-age is bullshit.

I'm going 3 at the moment.

I think that equation is just one of a few insomnia. Personally I think if you want to know your max heart rate then go up an incline for an extended period of time pushing yourself as hard as possible. Once you've regained conciseness and crawled out of the hedge check your max heart rate on your speedo. Then go from there!

 

[CXRAndy]

What the hell, looking at the little graphics in blue this route looks easy, power over the little humps speed down the hills, just check the details and you will cry
Pujades de potencia a Son Angel i La Vall

 

[<Tommy>]

It can be a fine line, you can blow up as by going into the red and need to really slow down for a minute or two to recover or blow up and have nothing left and need to stop. I have done the former several times and once the latter, this being the worst by far. When getting into cycling I decided to go out unprepared and cycled too far into the countryside, Bonked and had to cycle 15 miles to the nearest city with a train and catch a lift. 15 miles at 10mph on the flat, I looked and felt terrible. Gor for it, maybe I can get pass and stay there

Btw I would kill to get the starting speed you Bkool trainers have

Yeah I had a 20+ seconds on you after the start andy!

We're very even at the moment so you're one of the people I always want to get ahead of by the finishing line of if I'm totally honest . (I think you feel the same ).
When you came back at me, slowly and methodically. I thought you would keep that rythem and eventually break me if I pushed too hard. But maybe because you had to compensate for your disadvantage of the start it means you loose too much energy just making up that deficit?

 

[Roleur1]

I would think its no4.....general rules don't apply to individuals very well. The go as hard as you can gauge is often good, but beware of 'the rules' no 6......# free your mind and your legs will follow #.

Its time to tame the chimp.... Steve Peters book is a good read. The chimp persona.

Re blowing up....well a short term over exertion due to lactic and waste product build up is a million miles away from a proper 'bonk' due to low blood sugar as experienced on a longer ride. You will never know your limit if you don't find it and got through it. HRMs are not that helpful from that perspective as you tend to ride to what you think your limit is.