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J1888

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You said you think he'd do OK, I'm just asking why you think that... If it's the Cardiff thing, fair enough (though that was what, 5 years ago?). Nothing else suggests he's any good, and he has a habit of falling out with everyone

Moyes is a better manager than Mackay, by miles.

I think he's a reasonable manager, though his record at Wigan was abysmal. When was Moyes last a good manager? He was embarrassing at Sunderland, bringing in his average players in an old pals act, a la Strachan. Scotland could do without the same routine again.
 

AndyRM

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I think he's a reasonable manager, though his record at Wigan was abysmal. When was Moyes last a good manager? He was embarrassing at Sunderland, bringing in his average players in an old pals act, a la Strachan. Scotland could do without the same routine again.

Since leaving Everton, Moyes has been on a hiding to nothing, in England at least. He actually did alright at Man U despite a total lack of support, and as for Sunderland - nobody has been able to do anything with them for years. His stint at Sociedad was poorly judged.
 

J1888

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Since leaving Everton, Moyes has been on a hiding to nothing, in England at least. He actually did alright at Man U despite a total lack of support, and as for Sunderland - nobody has been able to do anything with them for years. His stint at Sociedad was poorly judged.

Fat Sam did OK at Sunderland...and would be decent enough for Scotland
 

J1888

Über Member
Yeah, he managed to get one more win than Moyes. Some achievement.

Another guy with a habit of falling out with everyone. No thanks.

Moyes had a win ratio of around 18% at Sunderland, Sam had 29%...

Who would your preferred choice be?
 

J1888

Über Member
Percentages like that are meaningless without context.

Mike Phelan maybe? Probably the closest you can get to Ferguson.

It was you that brought the number of games won as a comparison, the context is that allardyce managed them for fewer games!!
 

Smokin Joe

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Managers can only do so much, and if the players are no more than a certain standard they're on a hiding to nothing before they even begin.

As countless England "New brooms" and "Breaths of fresh air" have found out over the past half century.
 

AndyRM

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It was you that brought the number of games won as a comparison, the context is that allardyce managed them for fewer games!!

If you're going to be that black and white about it then sure.

Who would you have manage Scotland?
 

J1888

Über Member
Managers can only do so much, and if the players are no more than a certain standard they're on a hiding to nothing before they even begin.

As countless England "New brooms" and "Breaths of fresh air" have found out over the past half century.

That's the thing though - Scotland have players who are worth a go and that Strachan ignored. McGregor had been playing excellently for Celtic and has acquitted himself well in some European games. John McGinn is worth a go. Strachan eventually included McGregor largely due to injuries and then promptly didn't play him...in game situations that are suited to both him and McGinn.

As has been said many times, Scotland, aside from their centre backs, are easily as good if not stronger than Ireland and Northern Ireland, yet look what has happened.
 

Levo-Lon

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Man U v Liverpool shluld be fun.

Man u are playing a 9 -1-1 formation according to Mourinho 9 strikers , imagine the squabbling over who takes free kicks or scores
 

AndyRM

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Bloody hell, after a week of rumours and scary prospects (Gus McPherson, Ally McCoist) Killie have appointed Steve Clarke! It's like we've actually learned that going for rookie managers isn't a great idea. Only taken 4 seasons of disasters to work that out!
 

Accy cyclist

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Accrington play Coventry today,which is the first meeting between the clubs in 60 odd years. They're bringing 1800 fans which means they've sold their full ticket allocation. Hopefully it'll be a good game with both clubs neck and neck up near the top of the table.
 
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