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Chislenko

Veteran
I don't watch Premier League football but sitting in the pub tonight and Burnley v Man U is showing. From what I have seen of Burnley tonight I am struggling to understand the negative comments about them that proliferate this thread.
 

postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
Tonight the results did Leeds a favour.Sadly this time tomorrow they will not capitalise on it.Defeated by a good Villa side.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
I don't watch Premier League football but sitting in the pub tonight and Burnley v Man U is showing. From what I have seen of Burnley tonight I am struggling to understand the negative comments about them that proliferate this thread.
They've won one game this season. One game. They can stop all that "smallest town in the Premiership" nonsense. They made the big league so the money through the gate is irrelevant now. They all get massive amounts of money they are supposed to use to invest in the best players so we can continue to have the greatest ongoing spectacle in sport. Instead, they spend next to nothing, pay the lowest wages, maintain a small-team siege mentality and deserve what they're going to get at the end of this season. It's anti-football, that's what people don't like. They were fortunate to only have to face a team on the slide last night. McGuire United or something.
 

Scaleyback

Veteran
Location
North Yorkshire
40 points for West Ham, safe from relegation again :okay:

I am interested in West Ham fans reaction to David Moyes selecting Kurt Zouma for last night's game. I listened to Moyes on 5Live proclaiming " I'm an animal lover " and then saying this is for the club to handle " I just pick the best football team ' What a cop out ' Moyes, of all people is in a position to demonstrate his revulsion to Zouma ' drop kicking his cat around the house. Pay ' lip service ' and quickly move on. Pathetic
 

PaulSB

Squire
They've won one game this season. One game. They can stop all that "smallest town in the Premiership" nonsense. They made the big league so the money through the gate is irrelevant now. They all get massive amounts of money they are supposed to use to invest in the best players so we can continue to have the greatest ongoing spectacle in sport. Instead, they spend next to nothing, pay the lowest wages, maintain a small-team siege mentality and deserve what they're going to get at the end of this season. It's anti-football, that's what people don't like. They were fortunate to only have to face a team on the slide last night. McGuire United or something.
I wonder if you're aware of how Burnley have spent their PL riches in recent years? I don't subscribe to the "I hate Burnley" nonsense I hear at Ewood and as a Rovers fan, Burnley are our closest and deepest rivals, I would praise the way Burnley have invested PL money in recent years.

There is no law to say clubs should spend TV revenues on players. Doing so is highly irresponsible. How a football club spends income is a decision for the owners and management. Spending only for today is a foolhardy approach to club management and the attitude of fans who have little understanding of the need for sustainable investment in clubs.

It's possible Rovers will be promoted this season. If we do I hope the PL funds are used wisely; adequate investment in the squad to improve our chances of staying up, the repayment of a part of our substantial debt, support for ticket prices, stadium maintenance and investment in our youth system.

If we go down immediately so be it because the parachute payments will be there. To spend the entire windfall on new player transfer fees and wages would be a complete waste.

The failure of PL clubs to spend TV money wisely has a negative impact across the game. Spending the vast bulk of TV revenues on transfer fees, wages and agents fees is highly irresponsible and the road to ruin.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
I wonder if you're aware of how Burnley have spent their PL riches in recent years?
On hoof-ball exponents, obviously!

I know we're supposed to applaud them for their financial astuteness but they are horrible to watch. Playing for time from the fifth minute on, hanging on for a desperate point to claim just enough for more of the bloody same next year.

Good on you though for not subscribing to the East Lancs-bickerfest mentality though because it's pathetic to see. Going to Ewood when Blackburn had just won the league and Burnley were in the bottom league exemplified this. Despite the HUGE gap, the only song we'd hear (from them) was about how much they hated Burnley. Same from the clarets when we go there now.

You should listen to Bob Mortimer's take on Sean Dyche on his Athletico Mince podcast. Superb stuff which catches him perfectly.
 

Chislenko

Veteran
On hoof-ball exponents, obviously!

I know we're supposed to applaud them for their financial astuteness but they are horrible to watch. Playing for time from the fifth minute on, hanging on for a desperate point to claim just enough for more of the bloody same next year.

Good on you though for not subscribing to the East Lancs-bickerfest mentality though because it's pathetic to see. Going to Ewood when Blackburn had just won the league and Burnley were in the bottom league exemplified this. Despite the HUGE gap, the only song we'd hear (from them) was about how much they hated Burnley. Same from the clarets when we go there now.

You should listen to Bob Mortimer's take on Sean Dyche on his Athletico Mince podcast. Superb stuff which catches him perfectly.

This is where I don't get it, I watched last night's game, as a neutral, and it was an entertaining match, I certainly didn't see any "hoof ball". Most of the game I saw was Burnley trying to play out down the flanks getting their wing backs involved supporting the forwards. That is why I am surprised at the condemnation of them.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I am interested in West Ham fans reaction to David Moyes selecting Kurt Zouma for last night's game. I listened to Moyes on 5Live proclaiming " I'm an animal lover " and then saying this is for the club to handle " I just pick the best football team ' What a cop out ' Moyes, of all people is in a position to demonstrate his revulsion to Zouma ' drop kicking his cat around the house. Pay ' lip service ' and quickly move on. Pathetic

Chelsea fan here - total cop out by Moyes.

Nothing matters but the game eh?
 

jowwy

Not here offten enough to argue
On hoof-ball exponents, obviously!

I know we're supposed to applaud them for their financial astuteness but they are horrible to watch. Playing for time from the fifth minute on, hanging on for a desperate point to claim just enough for more of the bloody same next year.

Good on you though for not subscribing to the East Lancs-bickerfest mentality though because it's pathetic to see. Going to Ewood when Blackburn had just won the league and Burnley were in the bottom league exemplified this. Despite the HUGE gap, the only song we'd hear (from them) was about how much they hated Burnley. Same from the clarets when we go there now.

You should listen to Bob Mortimer's take on Sean Dyche on his Athletico Mince podcast. Superb stuff which catches him perfectly.
yet your ok with liverpool fans at anfield cheering and singing when everton was losing under rafa's management and making comments around agent rafa........so many double standards its comical
 

midlife

Legendary Member
I am interested in West Ham fans reaction to David Moyes selecting Kurt Zouma for last night's game. I listened to Moyes on 5Live proclaiming " I'm an animal lover " and then saying this is for the club to handle " I just pick the best football team ' What a cop out ' Moyes, of all people is in a position to demonstrate his revulsion to Zouma ' drop kicking his cat around the house. Pay ' lip service ' and quickly move on. Pathetic

I sort of expected being fined a months wages, giving that money to the RSPCA and asking for him to be banned from keeping animals for life.

trying to remember what happened to the woman that put a cat in a wheelie bin a few years ago....
 

Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
Chelsea fan here - total cop out by Moyes.

Nothing matters but the game eh?
It is unfair to lay all the blame on Moyes for this, a decision to ban or otherwise discipline Zouma should have come from board level. Moyes probably now regrets his selection, but you live and die by results in football and I can understand why he did it even if I don't agree with him.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
I sort of expected being fined a months wages, giving that money to the RSPCA and asking for him to be banned from keeping animals for life.

trying to remember what happened to the woman that put a cat in a wheelie bin a few years ago....
I'm always interested by the ability of football.clubs to "fine" players for off field issues. I've never had a contract that would allow my employer to deduct salary in an arbitrary way. I wonder how the clubs get away with it? Doing so would seem to infringe employment law
 
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