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Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
I'm always interested by the ability of football.clubs to "fine" players for off field issues. I've never had a contract that would allow my employer to deduct salary in an arbitrary way. I wonder how the clubs get away with it? Doing so would seem to infringe employment law
I would suspect that if a player were to challenge it in the courts they could get it overturned, rather like Bosman did with the rule that allowed clubs to keep players registrations after their contracts had finished and dictating what club they signed for next.

The other one I'm certain would be overturned is sport authorities ability to discipline competitors for publicly criticising them. No other controlling body, is able to do this yet sports rulers regularly fine and ban participants for the laughable offence of "Bringing the game into disrepute".
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
yet your ok with liverpool fans at anfield cheering and singing when everton was losing under rafa's management and making comments around agent rafa........so many double standards its comical
He's posted before about his dislike of east Lancashire's two main football clubs. Next he'll be calling us 'wooley backs'.:rolleyes: I for one like Burnley being in the Premier League and I hope that Blackburn join them next season, but realistically I predict that east Lancs won't have a representative in the top flight next season as Burnley are looking doomed and Blackburn at the moment will be lucky to make the play offs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60224957
 
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Regarding the West Ham player kicking his cat, I urge people to look at the amount of vile cruelty out there towards defenseless animals, not just those mistreated by 'millionaire footballers'. Yes, he's a total dick, but I saw a headline yesterday which I just couldn't click onto as stuff like this seriously upsets me. It was about a (I think she was 21 or 22 year old) teaching assistant who'd encouraged a two year old child to take part in badger baiting and fox killing while it was being filmed. At least Kurt Zouma's cats are now safe, unlike those poor animals sadistically killed by genuine evil pieces of work! I wonder how many of those sadistic types out there who abuse fellow humans and defenseless animals have been screaming for Zouma's sacking, even imprisonment.
 
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I am interested in West Ham fans reaction to David Moyes selecting Kurt Zouma for last night's game. I listened to Moyes on 5Live proclaiming " I'm an animal lover " and then saying this is for the club to handle " I just pick the best football team ' What a cop out ' Moyes, of all people is in a position to demonstrate his revulsion to Zouma ' drop kicking his cat around the house. Pay ' lip service ' and quickly move on. Pathetic
Sorry bit late to this.
I went to the game on Tuesday night in which Zouma was rightly booed and i think Moyes should have sent out a message and dropped him for the game.Even if it did meant replacing him for the out of form Diop.
That video was sickening and why they thought it was okay to put it on social media is beyond me.
The thing is once a player signs a contract he's on a win-win result.
He can only be fined up to the maximum of two weeks wages(£250K) a lot of money but not for a professional player, which he has and thankfully that will go a animal charity.
Selling him would be no good as then you are getting rid of a very good player only for him to play for another club.
He will get booed for a few games but after that it will probably be sadly forgotten.
 

VelvetUnderpants

Über Member
Last night's game against Leeds was a real rollercoaster of a game. There was brilliant attacking play from Coutinho and the young Jacob Ramsey, mired by the hopeless defending of Mings, who always has a mistake in him and Konza who unusually for him also had a bad game.

I made the fatal error of going to the bar 5 minutes before half-time with Villa and Leeds 1-1, only for Ramsey to fire in two goals and then Leeds to score, making it 3-2.

The second half was pretty much all Leeds and they got their reward, equalizing to make it 3-3. A draw was probably a fair result, but Gerrard will not be happy with our defensive display and apparently is quite ruthless once he decides who is not up to standard. I can see a replacement for Mings coming in, another bid for Bissouma is definitely on the cards as we desperately need a quality defensive midfielder and possibly Watkins on his way out. His performance was poor and if the rumours are true if Arsenal come in with a bid I think he may be gone.

Gerrard needs to bend a few players ears before Saturday because Newcastle are not the pushover they were before the January transfer window,
 

Grant Fondo

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Last night's game against Leeds was a real rollercoaster of a game. There was brilliant attacking play from Coutinho and the young Jacob Ramsey, mired by the hopeless defending of Mings, who always has a mistake in him and Konza who unusually for him also had a bad game.

I made the fatal error of going to the bar 5 minutes before half-time with Villa and Leeds 1-1, only for Ramsey to fire in two goals and then Leeds to score, making it 3-2.

The second half was pretty much all Leeds and they got their reward, equalizing to make it 3-3. A draw was probably a fair result, but Gerrard will not be happy with our defensive display and apparently is quite ruthless once he decides who is not up to standard. I can see a replacement for Mings coming in, another bid for Bissouma is definitely on the cards as we desperately need a quality defensive midfielder and possibly Watkins on his way out. His performance was poor and if the rumours are true if Arsenal come in with a bid I think he may be gone.

Gerrard needs to bend a few players ears before Saturday because Newcastle are not the pushover they were before the January transfer window,
Agree, cracking games last night ... the Saints 3-2 was a belter too :smile:
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Agree, cracking games last night ... the Saints 3-2 was a belter too :smile:
Yep, I was at the Saints game. First time at the new Spurs stadium which is amazing.
Spurs were terrible other than for about 20 minutes in the first half. Weak, lethargic. As a Liverpool supporter I wanted them to win to reduce Manchester United's chances of a top four. No such luck.
Saints away support was excellent
 

Grant Fondo

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Yep, I was at the Saints game. First time at the new Spurs stadium which is amazing.
Spurs were terrible other than for about 20 minutes in the first half. Weak, lethargic. As a Liverpool supporter I wanted them to win to reduce Manchester United's chances of a top four. No such luck.
Saints away support was excellent
Er, glad you enjoyed the match
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PaulB

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Location
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Funny game at Anfield last night. We (the Kop) made a pact many years ago that the only goalkeeper we WOULDN'T applaud as he ran towards us was Peter Scmeichel but this doesn't apply to his son. Despite the applause most definitely being for him as he ran towards us for the start of the second half, he pointedly turned his back refusing to acknowledge it! His dad must have told him to do that. Then he proceeded to be his own father making some spectacular saves that were uncannily like Peter. He was so good, the abuse of him just stopped. It's frustrating when a good keeper prevents an an onslaught but we do appreciate skill and talent when we see it and this lad has it in ship's containers full.

If Leicester had another goalkeeper last night, it would have been four or five nil.

But we stole certain player from the unwary Wolverhampton Wanderers and if anyone can get past Kaspar, it's Diogo. And he did it twice. He now sits in an elite band of Liverpool players and former players who reached thirty goals in the fewest games. This includes the likes of Robbie Fowler, Ian Rush, Torres and Salah. He's going to be a big success.
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Funny game at Anfield last night. We (the Kop) made a pact many years ago that the only goalkeeper we WOULDN'T applaud as he ran towards us was Peter Scmeichel but this doesn't apply to his son. Despite the applause most definitely being for him as he ran towards us for the start of the second half, he pointedly turned his back refusing to acknowledge it! His dad must have told him to do that. Then he proceeded to be his own father making some spectacular saves that were uncannily like Peter. He was so good, the abuse of him just stopped. It's frustrating when a good keeper prevents an an onslaught but we do appreciate skill and talent when we see it and this lad has it in ship's containers full.

If Leicester had another goalkeeper last night, it would have been four or five nil.

But we stole certain player from the unwary Wolverhampton Wanderers and if anyone can get past Kaspar, it's Diogo. And he did it twice. He now sits in an elite band of Liverpool players and former players who reached thirty goals in the fewest games. This includes the likes of Robbie Fowler, Ian Rush, Torres and Salah. He's going to be a big success.
I am now an arm chair supporter having stood in the kop and paddock for many years.
I can't recall the fans hating Scmiechal (spelling?) at all. He was imo best in the world. His son is good as well.
 
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