The Football.....

[jowwy]

I'm not complaining, just pointing out that he didn't invest the way you seem to think he did. And the criticism is justified.

I live in Newcastle, a lot of my friends are Newcastle supporters so I care about the damage that's been done to their club by Ashley.

Also, I've bought a football.

Careful, admitting living in a different country to the club you support ……the football trolls will come and get you.

and you are complaining and criticising, as much as you think your not.

and for clarity i never said he did invest, i said he paid more out in transfers than he gained in sales and i proved that point with a direct source. It was you that stated that he bought the club to make money on players and that is just untrue, based on the information source i supplied.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

I'm with jowwy on this.

I think Ashley has done a decent job with Newcastle, taking over a club that was heavily in debt and leaving it solvent - and attractively sellable. Newcastle fans are the same as the fans of nearly every other club, they would be more than happy to see the club invest (ie piss hundreds of millions up the wall with no return, which is how most such "Investments" turn out) and then bitterly complain about mismanagement when the club becomes insolvent and gets relegated.

Ashley is not a popular figure, but he is no fool and he didn't allow that to happen. As for making money out of the club, that's the whole point of buying a business.

 

[AndyRM]

Careful, admitting living in a different country to the club you support ……the football trolls will come and get you.

and you are complaining and criticising, as much as you think your not.

and for clarity i never said he did invest, i said he paid more out in transfers than he gained in sales and i proved that point with a direct source. It was you that stated that he bought the club to make money on players and that is just untrue, based on the information source i supplied.

You did like.

He didn't.

And then you made up baws about the stadium and infrastructure. You don't have a clue.

 

[jowwy]

You did like.

He didn't.

And then you made up baws about the stadium and infrastructure. You don't have a clue.

No i asked about stadium and infrastructure………read posts before you answer.

anyway you dont support the club, your just another upset football fan for no reason, other than to cause argument…..if you cared that much you would buy a season ticket, but you dont.

 

[Dave7]

This used to be an interesting thread about football but between you, you seem to have ruined it

 

[AndyRM]

No i asked about stadium and infrastructure………read posts before you answer.

anyway you dont support the club, your just another upset football fan for no reason, other than to cause argument…..if you cared that much you would buy a season ticket, but you dont.

Ashley hasn't invested in either the infrastructure or the stadium, beyond the screen that I mentioned.

I support my club.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

The tone of this thread has become a bit snippy.

Not quite as bad as some of the team forums but heading in that direction - lighten up.

This used to be an interesting thread about football but between you, you seem to have ruined it

Well said. 👍

 

[AndyRM]

The tone of this thread has become a bit snippy.

Not quite as bad as some of the team forums but heading in that direction - lighten up

Well said. 👍

You're right, and I apologise for my part in the snippiness folks.

So changing tack, the situation at Barcelona is interesting. Looks like Xavi is going to be the next manager, but I'm not sure he's the solution to their obvious woes.

 

[PaulSB]

You're right, and I apologise for my part in the snippiness folks.

So changing tack, the situation at Barcelona is interesting. Looks like Xavi is going to be the next manager, but I'm not sure he's the solution to their obvious woes.

Thanks, that's very decent of you to apologise. I don't post often but enjoy a read most days.......

 

[postman]

Breaking news,burglars have broken in to the Newcastle trophy room,police have asked supporters to look out for deals on black and white carpets.

 

[carpiste]

For the benefit of any Newcastle fan.....
As a true Manc and a City fan, I can assure you all the jokes, "banter", abuse and reports of skullduggery will get worse.
It goes with the territory. But remember that when you start to win things, paid for by oil or not, you will enjoy the benefits and accept the abuse.

For many years the likes of Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal used their buying power to help them win all the major trophies. It was the big 3 who basically ran football. Most other fans hated it but in the days before the tinterweb and fake news fans just accepted it all and some, myself included, had a "second" favourite team! This was purely to have someone to support and cheer for in finals and the closing weeks of the league.

Every so often a team would come along and spoil it all of course. Remember Notts Forest daring to win trophies? Oh how the top 3 hated it when they won the European cup twice! It was quite funny to see them squirm and know they were actually jealous of a little midlands club!

Then Chelsea were taken over by a Russian oil man! My Dog, the World was going to end! Football would be ruined! It was terrible how they could just about buy anybody and any trophy! Of course that wasn`t quite true but that was what was being said.

Since Chelsea were taken over the Premier league got better and better. More money, not just from Chelsea, came into the game from sponsorship and TV rights. The World market increased so much that nowadays it is the biggest football league in the World. Even the Spanish can`t compete!

As a direct result of money more investors are looking at being involved in football. As a direct result of more finance the top players will continue to play in the premier. The better the players, the better the football the more people will want to watch. It`s a vicious circle and unfortunately, for some, it just means more competition!
I like competition. It makes me smile. Newcastle fans, rejoice in your new found wealth. Look forward and enjoy the thrill of the ride.

 

[Dayvo]

 

[Dayvo]

 

[SpokeyDokey]

For the benefit of any Newcastle fan.....
As a true Manc and a City fan, I can assure you all the jokes, "banter", abuse and reports of skullduggery will get worse.
It goes with the territory. But remember that when you start to win things, paid for by oil or not, you will enjoy the benefits and accept the abuse.

For many years the likes of Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal used their buying power to help them win all the major trophies. It was the big 3 who basically ran football. Most other fans hated it but in the days before the tinterweb and fake news fans just accepted it all and some, myself included, had a "second" favourite team! This was purely to have someone to support and cheer for in finals and the closing weeks of the league.

Every so often a team would come along and spoil it all of course. Remember Notts Forest daring to win trophies? Oh how the top 3 hated it when they won the European cup twice! It was quite funny to see them squirm and know they were actually jealous of a little midlands club!

Then Chelsea were taken over by a Russian oil man! My Dog, the World was going to end! Football would be ruined! It was terrible how they could just about buy anybody and any trophy! Of course that wasn`t quite true but that was what was being said.

Since Chelsea were taken over the Premier league got better and better. More money, not just from Chelsea, came into the game from sponsorship and TV rights. The World market increased so much that nowadays it is the biggest football league in the World. Even the Spanish can`t compete!

As a direct result of money more investors are looking at being involved in football. As a direct result of more finance the top players will continue to play in the premier. The better the players, the better the football the more people will want to watch. It`s a vicious circle and unfortunately, for some, it just means more competition!
I like competition. It makes me smile. Newcastle fans, rejoice in your new found wealth. Look forward and enjoy the thrill of the ride.

Good post.

The original Big Three, probably Big Two and certainly Big One were more than happy when they had big (at the time) money coming in when the rest of us were being funded by the guy with a chain of butcher's shops etc.

Glad we (Chelsea) broke the mould tbh in the EPL despite all the abuse over the years. At least it broke down the exclusive small club that at the time hoovered up everything.

It's a big money, big business sport at the top end and fans either live with that or move on and support a team from the Conference or whatever instead.

To win the big pots then big money needs to be spent.

Newcastle fans will have to get used to the 'plastic' moniker as their fan base grows following the injection of oodles of cash - cest la vie. Although the 'plastic' tag seems to have died down a bit over the years - apart from the boring fans who think that their club is part of their DNA because they live near to their ground and their dad and dads' dad was a season ticket supporter and that because you live in Korea, USA, Japan etc that you cannot possibly be a 'proper' supporter.

We watch NBCSN a lot and their coverage of fan participation is brilliant - the numbers that get up at silly'o'clock to watch their team to me seems at least the equivalent commitment level than that of the person that lives half a mile from xyz football ground and trudges along at 3pm on a Saturday via the Dog & Duck or whatever.

NB I quite like the odd visit to St.James' Park with the excellant away fans high level view.

Oooops! Bit ranty but there you go - very late night and not been up too long. Sorry!

 

[ianrauk]

excellant away fans high level view.

An oxygen tank for the climb was always handy.
Love Newcastle away matches. Probably one of my favourites.