The Last Jedi.... I cannot wait...

[MacB]

I’m not wrong, I’m judging him as an adult, not a child and that’s essentially your point.

My point goes beyond that, you are watching something with a critical adult eye but still want to be magically enthralled like you were at 8 years old...good luck with that.

If you'd seen JJ at age 8 you'd have loved him and that's the only judgement that matters....that of the age appropriate audience, the character wasn't created for you in our 30s/40s.

Watch, hang up your adult baggage, immerse yourself and enjoy the escapism - as soon as you start trying to bring to bear an adult perspective then the 'magic' will automatically be trashed.

 

[Inertia]

The Ewoks were too cute back in nineteen-eighty-something. I was eight when Star Wars arrived and it was a film made for 8 year olds. I'll have been eleven when the Empire struck back, and again it was perfect for my age (deeper, darker)... but when the Jedi returned, i was given a film for 8 year olds Still loved it though, apart from the Ewoks.

When you say 2... you mean Attack of the Clones? I detest all the prequels but felt that was the strongest of the three.

Jedi was definitely lighter in tone but after Empire I think people were ready for SW to lighten up. The older I got the more I realised it was light though, when I was younger I didn't notice and just enjoyed it. Its only my older self noticed that Chewie actually did the tarzan yell.

Yes I mean Attack of the Clones, the romance is unbelievable, terrible dialogue for Anakin and the end battle is constantly interrupted by slapstick 3PO. if you remember he got his head swapped onto to battle droid which obviously turns him into a killer robot because, it will be funny! He then come up with comedy gold like "This is such a drag. " as Artoo drags his head and "Im quite beside myself" as he arrives next to his body.

 

[AndyMack]

Yes I mean Attack of the Clones, the romance is unbelievable, terrible dialogue for Anakin and the end battle is constantly interrupted by slapstick 3PO. if you remember he got his head swapped onto to battle droid which obviously turns him into a killer robot because, it will be funny! He then come up with comedy gold like "This is such a drag. " as Artoo drags his head and "Im quite beside myself" as he arrives next to his body.

C3PO the Rodger Moore Bond in a galaxy far far away.

 

[MontyVeda]

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Yes I mean Attack of the Clones, the romance is unbelievable, terrible dialogue for Anakin and the end battle is constantly interrupted by slapstick 3PO. if you remember he got his head swapped onto to battle droid which obviously turns him into a killer robot because, it will be funny! He then come up with comedy gold like "This is such a drag. " as Artoo drags his head and "Im quite beside myself" as he arrives next to his body.

Like the other prequels... it's dire on so many levels. I liked the Boba Fett back story and rock-hard Yoda though... even if he is CGI and not a Muppet, i think that's all that raised it slightly above the other prequels.

I think the prequels could have been a lot better if the droids weren't even in them. Anekin building c-3po was possibly the worst idea in the entire starwars universe... and even if a seven year old did build a droid, he'd have called it Bonzo or Spike, not C-feckin-3PO... and Ben Kenobi claimed to never have owned a droid before, so why give the young Obi Wan a droid? Of course the answer is toy sales... why else shoehorn two completely unnecessary characters in?

 

[captain nemo1701]

Those movies and TV series imo show the same lack of imagination... blow the ship up, save the day, get a new enterprise at the end...go boldly blah blah blah.

So seven seasons of ST TNG, DS9 & voyager with four seasons of Enterprise, three of the original series (plus the animated series), plus all the movies (in which the ships have only been destroyed three times) aren't 'imaginative'?????. Trek has been into parallel universes, time traveled, encountered umpteen alien races, encountered a Dyson sphere (ST TNG 'Relics'), an ocean in space (Voyager '30 days'), a civilisation where time moves faster on the surface than the outside universe (Voyager 'Blink of an Eye'). I'd say that makes it much more imaginative than SW which is essentially a war movie split into trilogies. It charts the rise and fall of an Empire. To add another trilogy is rather like finishing a novel and then sticking an addendum on the end that repeats a lot of what went before. I saw the originals from 1978-1983 and thought that it worked as just three movies. The prequels weren't really necessary. SW would even work as just one film, the original. Lucas apparently called the first EP 4 just to give audiences the impression that there was a backstory.

It may be more fun to watch the stand alone 'young Han Solo' flicks since he was everyone's fave back in the day. But the main story is just getting rather predictable.

Worth mentioning at this point that Mr Lucas once admitted to taking time off writing SW to watch Trek episodes.

 

[MontyVeda]

Yeah but... the space ships and vehicles in Star Wars look loads better then Star Trek's.

Give me a Millenium Falcon, X wing, Y wing, Tie Fighter or Star Destroyer... even Luke's bashed up old Landspeeder any day over the Enterprise.

 

[Piemaster]

SW is the reason I've had the career I've had. That enough of an influence?
Saw the original release when my future Aunt's Father (shortly before she and my Uncle got married) took an impressionable me to see SW. He's actually already seen it once, but wanted an excuse to go again - me.
He was a Captain on BP oil tankers,we chatted, he gave me BP publicity stuff. As I was about to choose a secondary school Trinity House then became a thought, to which parents didn't object due to it's reputation. From there the path to a seafaring career just sort of happened.

 

[Drago]

Those movies and TV series imo show the same lack of imagination... blow the ship up, save the day, get a new enterprise at the end...go boldly blah blah blah.

So seven seasons of ST TNG, DS9 & voyager with four seasons of Enterprise, three of the original series (plus the animated series), plus all the movies (in which the ships have only been destroyed three times) aren't 'imaginative'?????. Trek has been into parallel universes, time traveled, encountered umpteen alien races, encountered a Dyson sphere (ST TNG 'Relics'), an ocean in space (Voyager '30 days'), a civilisation where time moves faster on the surface than the outside universe (Voyager 'Blink of an Eye'). I'd say that makes it much more imaginative than SW which is essentially a war movie split into trilogies. It charts the rise and fall of an Empire. To add another trilogy is rather like finishing a novel and then sticking an addendum on the end that repeats a lot of what went before. I saw the originals from 1978-1983 and thought that it worked as just three movies. The prequels weren't really necessary. SW would even work as just one film, the original. Lucas apparently called the first EP 4 just to give audiences the impression that there was a backstory.

It may be more fun to watch the stand alone 'young Han Solo' flicks since he was everyone's fave back in the day. But the main story is just getting rather predictable.

Worth mentioning at this point that Mr Lucas once admitted to taking time off writing SW to watch Trek episodes.

Strictly speaking the original wasn't a trilogy. The words "Part IV" were only added to the titles of the original film in 1979, 2 years after its release, when George Lucas decided he needed the money for a new conservatory. It was only ever intended to be a single, standalone film, which was retrospectively written into a trilogy.

 

[AndyMack]

Strictly speaking the original wasn't a trilogy. The words "Part IV" were only added to the titles of the original film in 1979, 2 years after its release, when George Lucas decided he needed the money for a new conservatory. It was only ever intended to be a single, standalone film, which was retrospectively written into a trilogy.

That’s inaccurate, Lucas always intended it to be a trilogy, it was Fox who weren’t sure and ordered him to drop the subtitle from the original opening crawl, when the film became a smash Lucas insisted the subtitle was added to Empires opening crawl and added Episode IV A New Hope when Star Wars was re released.

Edited to say, I’ve got an interview with Old George where he says he hoped at first to make 6 movies but the technologywasnt in place to do what he wanted. Skywalker sound and Industrial Light and Magic were created so Lucas could advance the tech to aid his vision.

 

[Drago]

We'll have to agree to disagree . What GL says happened many years after the event doesn't always tally with the known truth. For example, he gives 1981 as he altered the titles, but there are still prints in exiatence dating from 1979 that have it on there, a whole year before he claims he added it.

 

[AndyMack]

We'll have to agree to disagree

 

[threebikesmcginty]

I had to Google it.

I'm gonna pretend I knew it.

 

[captain nemo1701]

We'll have to agree to disagree . What GL says happened many years after the event doesn't always tally with the known truth. For example, he gives 1981 as he altered the titles, but there are still prints in exiatence dating from 1979 that have it on there, a whole year before he claims he added it.

I read the book 'Skywalking' a while back that talked about his plans for nine movies. I think it was about in the early 1980's but haven't seen a copy for years. I recall him saying that in one first draft, Han Solo worked on Jabba's yacht (the one in Jedi) but later became a smuggler. The original draft would have made a movie several hours long, so he apparently cut it into thirds.

 

[Inertia]

Like the other prequels... it's dire on so many levels. I liked the Boba Fett back story and rock-hard Yoda though... even if he is CGI and not a Muppet, i think that's all that raised it slightly above the other prequels.

I think the prequels could have been a lot better if the droids weren't even in them. Anikin building c-3po was possibly the worst idea in the entire starwars universe... and even if a seven year old did build a droid, he'd have called it Bonzo or Spike, not C-feckin-3PO... and Ben Kenobi claimed to never have owned a droid before, so why give the young Obi Wan a droid? Of course the answer is toy sales... why else shoehorn two completely unnecessary characters in?

See, I didn't like the Boba Fett story, it makes the galaxy smaller and I preferred him to be just some bad ass bounty hunter and not the template for the original storm troopers. I also thought the saber fight at the end wasn't very exciting and poorly lit, probably to conceal the fact that it was a stunt double for Christopher Lee.

I could have lived without 3PO but R2 is actually important, without him, the empire wins!

At the time I thought it was good but over time, its the least re-watchable to me.

The first one had one of my favourite Jedis, Qui-gon, Darth Maul and arguably the best saber fight in the series. The third had the fall of the Jedi, Order 66, which has added gravitas and sadness if you ever watched the Clone war series. It also has a few good saber fights, including Obi vs Grevious, Yoda vs Sidious and Obi vs Anakin.

 

[J1888]

The last one there with Mads Mikkelsen was OK, the one before that was laughable IMO - the baddie was a moody teenager ffs. Aboslute tosh.

So, I'll not be rushing to see this.