The men's dress style thread..

[T4tomo]

The Equality act covers that, well trained assistance animals cannot be banned, but not emotional support dogs, cats, lizards, etc.

I was on a train and a lady brought on a bag of what appeared to be fresh from the tumble drier washing, and proceeded to sort through it, roll up her socks and fold her smalls etc on the seat opposite me. That might have been emotional support therapy or she might have just visited the laundrette on her way into work, I didn't like to ask.

A well trained dog (or lizard) is fair less bother than some burger eating, loud music playing with or without earphones nobber, who appear qite frequently these days.

We should probably get back to clothes.

 

[T4tomo]

On that note, I bought one of these a while back when it was on offer. Very well made and very suitable for discerning Yorkshiremen, it even came with a Yorkshire Rose pin badge.
https://www.brooktaverner.co.uk/sui...e-tweed-three-piece-suit-haincliffe-suit.html

 

[winjim]

People > animals

I don't think that's a particularly controversial position. If I'm in a public place, particularly somewhere enclosed such as a train carriage and your dog is bothering me, or particularly my kids, you will move. That is not up for debate.

I accept that owners love their pets but sometimes that means they don't appreciate the effect that animals can have on other people.

Spoiler: Personal anecdote alert

My kid was recently startled and scratched by an overenthusiastic puppy which was off the lead, the owner kept saying "he won't do anything", oblivious to the fact that it was already doing something. I gave her an earful, but had it carried on I would have kicked the dog to get it away from my child. Dogs are great but they come with responsibilities and restrictions.

 

[Shortfall]

To be honest I don't use public transport much but when I do I much prefer well behaved pets to feral scum who put their feet on the seats and play tik tok videos and voice notes on loud speaker.

 

[CarbonClem]

Im getting a bit irked but the default position being that dogs are welcome everywhere. As an example I've been in a couple of cafes when the yapping of small dogs has made the atmosphere unbearable.

 

[Alex321]

People > animals

I don't think that's a particularly controversial position. If I'm in a public place, particularly somewhere enclosed such as a train carriage and your dog is bothering me, or particularly my kids, you will move. That is not up for debate.

You can say it is "not up for debate", but you don't actually have any right to enforce that, so it very much is.

 

[winjim]

You can say it is "not up for debate", but you don't actually have any right to enforce that, so it very much is.

I don't know what you mean by "right". If I'm on a train there will be a train manager, for example.

There's a very long spectrum ranging from asking the owner nicely, right up to the thing I redacted in my previous post which I don't expect to ever have to resort to, but the wellbeing of my children is an absolute priority. This should not be controversial.

 

[T4tomo]

You can say it is "not up for debate", but you don't actually have any right to enforce that, so it very much is.

that's @winjim and his dick swinging for you *

Spoiler: *Spoiler alert

*spoiler alert the dog mistakes it for a chipolata, thinks its been thrown down the carriage and disappears off after it never to return. so in a way you are both correct.

 

[winjim]

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that's @winjim and his dick swinging for you *

Spoiler: *Spoiler alert

*spoiler alert the dog mistakes it for a chipolata, thinks its been thrown down the carriage and disappears off after it never to return. so in a way you are both correct.

I mean I did give an actual example. What would have helped in that case was an apology and an expression of concern for my child but the dog owner was in complete denial. That's my point, owners may think their animal is behaving reasonably when it's not. Dogs should not be off the lead and jumping up at children. Again, not a controversial opinion I would have thought.

 

[Alex321]

I don't know what you mean by "right". If I'm on a train there will be a train manager, for example.
There's a very long spectrum ranging from asking the owner nicely, right up to the thing I redacted in my previous post which I don't expect to ever have to resort to,

What I mean is that you cannot yourself force the person with the dog to move.

As you say, you can call the train manager/conductor whatever they are called tomorrow, but there is no guarantee they will require the dog owner to move. They might even just say that if you are bothered, you can change carriage. So you cannot say absolutely "you will move. That is not up for debate.".

And of course it also depends rather on just what you mean by the dog "bothering" you or your kids. There is again a spectrum from it being a bit noisy or smelly, up to it actually causing physical harm, and quite a range between those.

but the wellbeing of my children is an absolute priority. This should not be controversial.

No, that is not at all controversial. But you can't be absolute in how that is achieved.

 

[winjim]

What I mean is that you cannot yourself force the person with the dog to move.

As you say, you can call the train manager/conductor whatever they are called tomorrow, but there is no guarantee they will require the dog owner to move. They might even just say that if you are bothered, you can change carriage. So you cannot say absolutely "you will move. That is not up for debate.".

And of course it also depends rather on just what you mean by the dog "bothering" you or your kids. There is again a spectrum from it being a bit noisy or smelly, up to it actually causing physical harm, and quite a range between those.



No, that is not at all controversial. But you can't be absolute in how that is achieved.

Good grief.

 

[Webbo2]

On that note, I bought one of these a while back when it was on offer. Very well made and very suitable for discerning Yorkshiremen, it even came with a Yorkshire Rose pin badge.
https://www.brooktaverner.co.uk/sui...e-tweed-three-piece-suit-haincliffe-suit.html
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I have a suit made by the same company which is in Yorkshire agricultural society tweed and that came with a Yorkshire pin and also says made in Yorkshire under the collar.

 

[Shortfall]

I have a suit made by the same company which is in Yorkshire agricultural society tweed and that came with a Yorkshire pin and also says made in Yorkshire under the collar.

Do they have a factory shop at their HQ? I can't see anything on the website but it's not too far for me to drive there.

 

[raleighnut]

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I mean I did give an actual example. What would have helped in that case was an apology and an expression of concern for my child but the dog owner was in complete denial. That's my point, owners may think their animal is behaving reasonably when it's not. Dogs should not be off the lead and jumping up at children. Again, not a controversial opinion I would have thought.

I've had exactly the opposite with my German Shepherd, we've been at a park or a music festival with Sabor on his leash and toddlers (up to about 3 yr old) have run up and thrown their arms round his neck* now I knew the dog was fine around kids as at the time we had 4 grandaughters but another dog could have reacted badly. I don't know what the kids thought he was...............giant teddy bear?...............but Sabor would have had one of his bandanas round his neck so maybe. Once the parents heart rate had come down I'd explain to them that maybe it wasn't a good idea to let their young children do this, other dogs may well react differently but my lad had been socialised very well.

* the look on the parents faces was priceless.

 

[winjim]

I've had exactly the opposite with my German Shepherd, we've been at a park or a music festival with Sabor on his leash and toddlers (up to about 3 yr old) have run up and thrown their arms round his neck* now I knew the dog was fine around kids as at the time we had 4 grandaughters but another dog could have reacted badly. I don't know what the kids thought he was...............giant teddy bear?...............but Sabor would have had one of his bandanas round his neck so maybe. Once the parents heart rate had come down I'd explain to them that maybe it wasn't a good idea to let their young children do this, other dogs may well react differently but my lad had been socialised very well.

* the look on the parents faces was priceless.

Yeah, definitely a good idea to teach kids how to behave around dogs. I wouldn't be happy with my kids cuddling or stroking strange dogs without asking the owner.