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Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Yes, LNWR DX Goods. Some of them made it to LMS days. Utterly forgotten now, along with John Ramsbottom, who also invented the metal piston ring, water trough and the first safety valve that couldn't be tampered with.
Dug out the relevant Locomotives Illustrated this morning - 863 built by the LNWR to its own orders commencing in 1857 but one (no.550) was sold in 1861 to the Portpatrick Railway and then exchanged for No.638 in 1862. No.550 then passed via Beyer Peacock to the Swedish State Railway. Six completed in 1871 (Nos 2039-2044) were sold after two months to the L&Y for whom a further 80 were built. Construction of the last examples for the LNWR took place in 1872 while those for the L&Y were built through to 1874. Consequently the number in use on the LNWR was a maximum, the magazine says, of 857 but I make it 855.

28 built in 1860-1 had smaller cylinders; all but one eventually received the class standard.
Those built up to April 1861 were named and by 1863 all were nameless, while cast numberplates were fitted from 1873.

Between 1881 and 1899 500 were rebuilt as "Super DX" and it was 89 of those that made it to LMS days along with just one DX that was scrapped in Jan 1923 and only 13 "Super DX"s lasted long enough to be renumbered - 8000, 8007, 8010, 8014, 8015, 8019, 8029, 8051, 8058, 8060, 8064, 8072 and 8084.

Other changes (not necessarily on all locos) included filling in open splashers, metal brakeblocks replacing wooden ones, plain Webb chimney replacing the originals, fitting of anti-vacuum valves from 1890 (but discarded in 1903), fitting of vacuum brakes (from c 1897) and from 1899 the sloping front firebox being replaced by a vertical one with circular door.
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Yesterday ride took me past the former station at Masham, inconveniently situated around a mile east of the town on the wrong side of the River Ure so it was an relatively early casualty in losing passenger services on New Years Day 1931 apart from occasional excursion trains. Goods services were withdrawn in November 1963. From 1906 a siding extended from the goods yard across the road, the metal gates on the left side of the road look suspicious in this respect, to a yard from where a narrow gauge railway ran westwards in connection with the building of Roundhill Reservoir by Harrogate Corporation and subsequently Leighton Reservoir by Leeds Corporation. The narrow gauge line was lifted in 1932/33 and of light construction with timber trestle viaducts including across the River Ure little trace of it exists today .
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This afternoon, during a potter around

There can't be many on this thread, who don't know this name?

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https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/955146

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And, to the north side of the buildings/compound, there are still tracks in the tarmac
This is one of the two sets, & cleared since I was last down there


The furthest point that can be seen in the picture is the embankment for the M1
jct 39 to right
jct 40 to left
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The other set, a few yards to my left; https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3096978


Seen here, crossing the road just left of the wording 'Railway Wagon Works'
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.65594&lon=-1.53939&layers=10&b=1


EDIT @ 17:35
If you open this, & look at the aerial shot, this crossing to the top of the frame
https://www.ossett.net/beyond/Charles_Roberts.html
 
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This afternoon, during a potter around

Bridge over the River Calder, carrying the Barnsley - Wakefield KirkGate line

It's at the bottom of Broadcut Road
It has a 'hidden extra', a footpath to Charles Street & Millfield Road
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It also carries water-pipes
Looking south, with the Calder flowing right to left

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https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2375013

From the Horbury side; https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5748464

And, from the inside

View: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210979299990747&set=a.10208170096922426&type=3&theater
 

NorthernDave

Never used Über Member
Yesterday ride took me past the former station at Masham, inconveniently situated around a mile east of the town on the wrong side of the River Ure so it was an relatively early casualty in losing passenger services on New Years Day 1931 apart from occasional excursion trains. Goods services were withdrawn in November 1963. From 1906 a siding extended from the goods yard across the road, the metal gates on the left side of the road look suspicious in this respect, to a yard from where a narrow gauge railway ran westwards in connection with the building of Roundhill Reservoir by Harrogate Corporation and subsequently Leighton Reservoir by Leeds Corporation. The narrow gauge line was lifted in 1932/33 and of light construction with timber trestle viaducts including across the River Ure little trace of it exists today .
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Is the former station still a campsite? We stayed there years ago.
There was (hopefully still is) a tearooms in the former station building that not only did an excellent breakfast, but did one of the best afternoon teas I've ever had.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Great news for fans of Pacers...but possibly not such great news for other rail users

https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2020/0...r-trains-are-coming-back-to-the-mainline.html
That's earlier than I thought. Some guards, whilst it was Arriva "operated" were saying they'd be running them next year as well.

They've been allowed to keep the 153's running, on certain routes.
 

NorthernDave

Never used Über Member
That's earlier than I thought. Some guards, whilst it was Arriva "operated" were saying they'd be running them next year as well.

They've been allowed to keep the 153's running, on certain routes.

As things stand I suppose the extra space is handy for social distancing as I doubt they'll be running them full at the moment.
I am surprised they've kept the 142s rather than the marginally more modern 143/144 units, presumably due to cost / lease co arrangements.
 

rogerzilla

Legendary Member
Ah, it's not like in "real" GWR days when they cast a big brass nameplate and the engine kept it for life (or until politics* or complaints from the named person** forced a change).

*LNER A4 Union Of South Africa was Osprey for a while during apartheid, the original Osprey having been renamed after an LNER bigwig

**some of the Earls didn't like their titles being applied to the Castle class. A smoky steam engine ferrying the proles to the seaside? How ghastly.
 

Rickshaw Phil

Overconfidentii Vulgaris
Moderator
Ah, it's not like in "real" GWR days when they cast a big brass nameplate and the engine kept it for life (or until politics* or complaints from the named person** forced a change).

*LNER A4 Union Of South Africa was Osprey for a while during apartheid, the original Osprey having been renamed after an LNER bigwig

**some of the Earls didn't like their titles being applied to the Castle class. A smoky steam engine ferrying the proles to the seaside? How ghastly.
That last bit is not quite right. The Earls names were transferred to the modern, powerful Castle class locomotives because they were unhappy with them being attached to the ostensibly new but very old fashioned looking "Dukedog" class:
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