Theoretical RLJ Question

[NigC]

Mr Bean did that at a set of lights once. He saw a cyclist dismount and walk his bike so did it with his mini, pushing around the corner, then getting back in and driving off again.

Erm..... check above ^^^^^

I think that junction is around my area somewhere

 

[guitarpete247]

Just spotted the Mr Bean link. I should have read throw tread more carefully.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

The only time I RLJ is when there is positively no-one else using the junction or crossing and there is no one in sight who is likely to be annoyed. Or police!

Is there an existentialist arguement that if no one saw it - then it didn't happen

I agree. This even applies to pushing the bike through red lights. Legal or not, if it irritates following car drivers it just adds fuel to the "cyclists don't stop at red lights" fire.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

If you're only dismounting to cross the junction and remounting afterwards, the circumstances are clearly not the same. And you're still in control of a vecicle, so ...

My ex's mother was once given a telling off from a policeman (who was obviously having a slow day) for pushing her bike the wrong way up a one way street. He said she should have pushed it all the way round the one way system - the right way - arguing that pushing or not, she was still in control of a vehicle. I suppose this technically applies to red lights too.

 

[hackbike 666]

Mr Bean did that at a set of lights once. He saw a cyclist dismount and walk his bike so did it with his mini, pushing around the corner, then getting back in and driving off again.

Really?

 

[Cubist]

There's a Mr Bean sketch where he sees a cyclist dismount and push his bike through a red light, so he gets out of his mini and follows him. Not into Bean myself.





(but I did enjoy Groundhog Day)

 

[Jezston]

Well that settles that. Wasn't actually suggesting I'd actually do it!

Also, the reason I brought it up is because I'd seen a Mr Bean sketch where a guy pushes his bike through a red light, then Mr Bean pushes his car through ahahaha have any of you seen that?

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Also, the reason I brought it up is because I'd seen a Mr Bean sketch where a guy pushes his bike through a red light, then Mr Bean pushes his car through ahahaha have any of you seen that?

I've heard about it somewhere. Can't think where.

 

[Cubist]

I'm going to check Youtube. If I find it I'll post a link!



Ah, here we are

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLFOpQbtC5c&feature=fvst

 

[Dan B]

I agree. This even applies to pushing the bike through red lights. Legal or not, if it irritates following car drivers it just adds fuel to the "cyclists don't stop at red lights" fire.

Yebbut. Rding two-abreast and filtering (not at the same time, obviously) are also both legal and may irritate following car drivers, so where do you draw the line? I refuse to pander to their bike envy

 

[Dan B]

My ex's mother was once given a telling off from a policeman (who was obviously having a slow day) for pushing her bike the wrong way up a one way street. He said she should have pushed it all the way round the one way system - the right way - arguing that pushing or not, she was still in control of a vehicle. I suppose this technically applies to red lights too.

Did she tell him to go and catch some real criminals? She must have been sorely tempted to

 

[jonny jeez]

Well that settles that. Wasn't actually suggesting I'd actually do it!

Also, the reason I brought it up is because I'd seen a Mr Bean sketch where a guy pushes his bike through a red light, then Mr Bean pushes his car through ahahaha have any of you seen that?

he he.......

 

[Arch]

I suspect that once you get off and onto the pavement and push the bike, about 90% of drivers simply cease to register your existence, in the same way that they don't register any pedestrian not about to cross the road.

Ride on the pavement, and that'll arouse their ire, yes, but walk pushing the bike, and I bet you just 'disappear'. Rejoin carefully (ie, don't just ride out in front of them), and I expect they'd barely notice.

 

[dondare]

My ex's mother was once given a telling off from a policeman (who was obviously having a slow day) for pushing her bike the wrong way up a one way street. He said she should have pushed it all the way round the one way system - the right way - arguing that pushing or not, she was still in control of a vehicle. I suppose this technically applies to red lights too.

If that's correct, it's really petty.
I live on a one-way street, and always walk up to the top. I've never seen a MrBeanesque motorist push their car up the road, but plenty seem to think that if they go the wrong way backwards then that doesn't count.

 

[slowmotion]

The bit of case law usually quoted is from Crank vs Brooks,

Crank v Brooks!!!!

What a fantastic name for a cycling law case!