Time to change the national anthem?

[srw]

Of course, that wasn't our National Anthem until 1931, Hail Columbia The Gem of the Ocean, and My Country, Tis of Thee being other major contenders at state occasions and baseball games.

Remind me - the tune for My country tis of thee? It slips my mind.

 

[Berk on a Bike]

This for English anthem or we may as well declare Isis the winners right now (or something)...

 

[Yellow Fang]

Jerusalem would have been good, but I expect non-Christians would complain.

 

[Stephenite]

Funnily enough...

I was singing this to my 9 month-old daughter tonight and thought of this thread!

 

[mybike]

Jerusalem would have been good, but I expect non-Christians would complain.

Christians would complain, it's a load of old nonsense.

 

[perplexed]

I'm not having a go at anybody race or creed, but I see in the papers the Cof E is loosing it's congregation, if we take the God save the Queen out of it we could end up having to play a different tune to please the minority of this country.

Talking of minorities, the current anthem appears to be written to praise 1 person rather than the other 60 million... We need something which avoids God/s of any flavour, ditto monarchy IMO...

 

[Gravity Aided]

Remind me - the tune for My country tis of thee? It slips my mind.

It gets confusing from there.

 

[Gravity Aided]

Christians would complain, it's a load of old nonsense.

Episcpopal Hymnal 1979 in the U.S. doesn't have it, due to the flawed theology. But otherwise a great hymn. Everybody thought Jesus visited their country back in the day, adapting religion to the requirements of Nationalism.

 

[Gravity Aided]

Talking of minorities, the current anthem appears to be written to praise 1 person rather than the other 60 million... We need something which avoids God/s of any flavour, ditto monarchy IMO...

But, see, She represents you all, like.

 

[growingvegetables]

Could we put some words to the Greig piano concerto, by Greig?

You might want to have second thoughts. Me - I'm all for it. +1 several zillion times. But I too hail from Aberdeen.

"born on the 15th of June 1843 in Bergen, where his father, Alexander Greig [sic], was English consul. The Grieg family were of Scottish origin, but the composer's grandfather a supporter of the Pretender, left his home at Aberdeen after Charles Edward's defeat at Culloden, and went to Bergen, where he carried on business."

 

[John the Monkey]

You might want to have second thoughts. Me - I'm all for it. +1 several zillion times. But I too hail from Aberdeen.

"born on the 15th of June 1843 in Bergen, where his father, Alexander Greig [sic], was English consul. The Grieg family were of Scottish origin, but the composer's grandfather a supporter of the Pretender, left his home at Aberdeen after Charles Edward's defeat at Culloden, and went to Bergen, where he carried on business."

I'm thinking principally of the little heard version that has a Mr. E. Morecambe as soloist.

 

[mjr]

Jerusalem would have been good, but I expect non-Christians would complain.

Probably not that many because I think most would quite like a national anthem with words that some (including the former Bishop of Durham) say calls some churches "Dark Satanic Mills" and demands divine energy to be bestowed upon all of us, written by someone acquitted of high treason There's really a lot of reasons for a wide range of people to love it.

 

[Tim Hall]

Probably not that many because I think most would quite like a national anthem with words that some (including the former Bishop of Durham) say calls some churches "Dark Satanic Mills" and demands divine energy to be bestowed upon all of us, written by someone acquitted of high treason There's really a lot of reasons for a wide range of people to love it.

And Ob.Cycling: The FNRTTC to Felpham goes past the pub where he (Blake) was alleged to have made said remarks.

 

[Yellow Fang]

Probably not that many because I think most would quite like a national anthem with words that some (including the former Bishop of Durham) say calls some churches "Dark Satanic Mills" and demands divine energy to be bestowed upon all of us, written by someone acquitted of high treason There's really a lot of reasons for a wide range of people to love it.

Blake did appear to have to heterodox opinions, or perhaps he was not theologically well schooled.

When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears
Did he smile his work to see
Did he who made the lamb make thee

What do you mean 'made the lamb'? Begotten not made, mate.

 

[srw]

Blake did appear to have to heterodox opinions, or perhaps he was not theologically well schooled.

When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears
Did he smile his work to see
Did he who made the lamb make thee

What do you mean 'made the lamb'? Begotten not made, mate.

Metaphor, innit.