Time Travel...

[Chromatic]

the more advanced rules of physics are quite delicate, and theoretical, it would take very little to send our scientific theories back to the bronze age, its why astro physicists who use string theory as opposed to quantum loop theory hate black holes, it throws the book out the window.

for a long time physicists thought E=mc2 was the governing rule for the whole universe, then neutron stars and singularity phenomenon came along, threw that out the window too. so everyone was back at square one.

hawkings theory regarding space and time are highly THEORETICAL and easily disproved or overturned, it only takes a miner discovery.
as for traveling in time, it is known as fact that space can be warped, its why NASA is working on a warp engine(look it up, good reading)(space and time are interwoven,hence the term "the fabric of space time")

it is a strong theory that with enough power you can fold space, and therefore time, now what would happen if you folded space back on itself......?

and vuala! reverse time travel!

(this is theoretical science just like hawkings just less published)

A while back i was thinking this could be a great premise for a film... fruitless experiments to send objects back or forward only seem to make them disappear... the funding runs out and the experiments stop. Then decades later, objects are being found where they really shouldn't be, eg. a wrist watch being dug out of a coal seam in yugoslavia. This makes the news and one of the younger members (now say, 80 years of age) of the original experiments recognises the watch. Turns out that one can travel through either space or time, but not both at the same time.... then i started trying to work out some maths... i travel one second into the future.... where does that put my lab? A quick google suggests the earth spins at 465 meters/second, so i'm going to end up around 465 meters away from my lab... but then the earth has also moved around the sun a bit, and all the solar system has moved a bit too... then my brain turned to jelly, just as it is doing now. Maybe crime fiction is more my league than SF?!?

Spooky!

 

[colly]

A while back i was thinking this could be a great premise for a film... fruitless experiments to send objects back or forward only seem to make them disappear... the funding runs out and the experiments stop. Then decades later, objects are being found where they really shouldn't be, eg. a wrist watch being dug out of a coal seam in yugoslavia. This makes the news and one of the younger members (now say, 80 years of age) of the original experiments recognises the watch. Turns out that one can travel through either space or time, but not both at the same time.... then i started trying to work out some maths... i travel one second into the future.... where does that put my lab? A quick google suggests the earth spins at 465 meters/second, so i'm going to end up around 465 meters away from my lab... but then the earth has also moved around the sun a bit, and all the solar system has moved a bit too... then my brain turned to jelly, just as it is doing now. Maybe crime fiction is more my league than SF?!?

That premise could still work. Only that the 're-placement' calculations turned out to be 'just a little bit off' because of some minor unforseen movements of the universe.
Better get writing. I look forward to a free signed copy and tickets the film premier.

 

[CopperCyclist]

The best time travel paradox for me is that once you can time travel to the future, you could instantly get huge leaps forward in technology and understanding by jumping forward a few millenia and bringing back examples.

However, because this would then be the best way to 'invent' new things or improve upon existing designs, all research would stop.

Which would mean jumping forward wouldn't work as humanity wouldn't be inventing anything new. So research would have to start up again... Which would make the best way to invent stuff jumping forward...

And so on.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

The best time travel paradox for me is that once you can time travel to the future, you could instantly get huge leaps forward in technology and understanding by jumping forward a few millenia and bringing back examples.

However, because this would then be the best way to 'invent' new things or improve upon existing designs, all research would stop.

Which would mean jumping forward wouldn't work as humanity wouldn't be inventing anything new. So research would have to start up again... Which would make the best way to invent stuff jumping forward...

And so on.

As I say, it would be annoying because you would never be able to intervene with things like that. You never know what the ripple effect might be if you did.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Can you tell me what next weeks lottery numbers are?

I could, but whilst out riding that new bike you would buy, riding at a slightly different time of day/different route than you otherwise would have, you would get run over and killed by the hatchback of fate, so I had better not.

See what I did there?

 

[chriss2.0]

to be honest, we would quickly become non-linear beings if left out of control, the future and the past would no longer exist, the lottery would be defunct, and so would all time based things.

research would be partitioned over several different timezone, future stuff would be in the past and the past could end up in the future, phazers would exist at the same time as stone age tools

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

....... On the other hand Rockaay, your wife would really appreciate the insurance money, so the numbers are........

 

[chriss2.0]

to a very small degree time travel already exists, one experiment, 2 atomic clocks and one jet,
the clocks were synced up and after a few supersonic loops and the clocks were no longer synced up
the clock in the jet traveld thrugh time

also the atomic clock in space needs to be continually reset because time moves slower in space,

lesson, time warps around large objects with a large gravity field


*correction*, the clock slowed down relative to earths clock. so technically earths time, moved faster than the jets time. only minutely tho

 

[Doseone]

I wish there was a like button for this whole thread. If I ever get to time travel I will invent one.

Damn.

 

[Andrew_Culture]

Maybe time travel follows a similar theory to that of ghosts, whereby objects 'record' times and events past and 'replay' them. My theory is based on the fact that every single morning for as long as I can remember I see (and sometimes smell) foul remnants from meals consumed in my recent past. It's most prevalent in one particular room in the house.

 

[colly]

time warps around large objects

You got a mention there Rocky.

 

[chriss2.0]

Maybe time travel follows a similar theory to that of ghosts, whereby objects 'record' times and events past and 'replay' them. My theory is based on the fact that every single morning for as long as I can remember I see (and sometimes smell) foul remnants from meals consumed in my recent past. It's most prevalent in one particular room in the house.

you may find it interesting that certain rocks can record electrical info, in a dusty environment your movement disturbs the electrical field, and that action will cause the surounding material to"record" the electrical info and when there is a high density of particulate matter (full of dust) and the recreation of the event can be seen via the partials following the field around

 

[Andrew_Culture]

you may find it interesting that certain rocks can record electrical info, in a dusty environment your movement disturbs the electrical field, and that action will cause the surounding material to"record" the electrical info and when there is a high density of particulate matter (full of dust) and the recreation of the event can be seen via the partials following the field around

There have indeed been times when the dust particles in the bright sunlight streaming through the window have been disturbed by fell winds that accompany the visitations.

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

Time travel is deffo real. Dr Who does it all the time in that Dalek machine thing

I rest my case

 

[Chromatic]

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/time-machine.128099/#post-2404200

Is it Deja Vu all over again?