Toothache with no cause ?

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kingrollo

Legendary Member
Dentist first gave me antibiotics - which seemed to help at first ....but then the pain returned - GP has given me some stronger antibiotics.

Dentist did some more x rays - couldn't find any dental issues. Has referred me to dental hospital - but the wait can be up to year.

She has suggested possibility sinus pain or teeth grinding. I thought the anti biotics would clear sinus problems - and in general the pain gets worse throughout the day so wouldn't have thought night grinding.

Last week pain was in one particular tooth - but now seems focused on both upper back teeth.

Any experience? - thoughts

I would pay to see a specialist - but want to get to a dental hospital - not just a glorified dentist - what kind of specialist would I need ?
 

midlife

Legendary Member
Where abouts are you, ?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Could very well be sinus issues. Plagued me at the start of the year, and then since end of April, and has lasted until this week. Try some OTC tablets for congestion (don't take too many), and maybe antihistamine for allergies - this seems to have cleared mine up at last. I had jaw/tooth ache with it, as well as pressure above my nose, but no 'snotty' issues.
 
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kingrollo

Legendary Member
Could very well be sinus issues. Plagued me at the start of the year, and then since end of April, and has lasted until this week. Try some OTC tablets for congestion (don't take too many), and maybe antihistamine for allergies - this seems to have cleared mine up at last. I had jaw/tooth ache with it, as well as pressure above my nose, but no 'snotty' issues.

I'm a cardiac patient. So limited to what I can take decongestant wise.
I used a saline rinse in the winter - might give that another blast.
 

midlife

Legendary Member
West Midlands
I’ll see if any of my colleagues in your area work privately.

Facial / dental pain of unknown origin can be awkward to pin down and falls between oral surgery and restorative dentistry. My speciality is the latter. Sinus pain is usually one sided as neuropathic pain. Pain both sides is unusual and is often muscular / TMD / clenching / grinding. Plus a few others.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
I would pay to see a specialist - but want to get to a dental hospital - not just a glorified dentist - what kind of specialist would I need ?

If you're prepared to pay for a specialist then ask your dentist to refer you. I did this when my hygienist made it clear she could not do anything more to control my gum disease. (She was great, she'd just reached the limits of her expertise and advised more intense treatment. )

I went from paying £40 for a session with her to £440 per hour with the specialist. The specialist was fantastic and has made an incredible improvement in my dental health.

Your dentist should be able to pass you on to someone like that.
 
Have you had a CBCT Scan? Problems can sometimes be missed in an X-ray as it’s either problematic to X-ray or they are not visible.

A dental hospital have a specialist called an endodentist, they specialise in a certain type of dental work and it’s additional training on top of normal dentistry.
 

YMFB

Senior Member
I have occasional tooth pain for no apparent reason. I go to the dentist regularly so know there’s no significant issue. If I use Duraphat 5000 toothpaste the pain goes.

its not cheap but its worth the money in my opinion.
 
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kingrollo

Legendary Member
I have occasional tooth pain for no apparent reason. I go to the dentist regularly so know there’s no significant issue. If I use Duraphat 5000 toothpaste the pain goes.

its not cheap but its worth the money in my opinion.

Am I correct that that is prescription only in the UK ?
 
I'm a chronic sufferer of sinus issues, and yeah, that does sound like it might be a backed up sinus - it can *really* make your teeth feel painful and like they're several sizes too big. Something free and easy to try here is acupressure. There's two main pressure points to work on.

The first is under your cheekbone, about an inch or so away from the side of your nose. Just press under it with your thumb.

The second is in the roof of your mouth. Getting to this one is a bit inelegant. Press your thumb against the roof of your mouth, and at the same time, press down on the bridge of your nose, and squeeze.

You'll know when it feels right, as the pressure can drop right away and / or you can feel the air entering your ears. Just be prepared for a snot deluge down the back of your throat.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I'm a chronic sufferer of sinus issues, and yeah, that does sound like it might be a backed up sinus - it can *really* make your teeth feel painful and like they're several sizes too big. Something free and easy to try here is acupressure. There's two main pressure points to work on.

The first is under your cheekbone, about an inch or so away from the side of your nose. Just press under it with your thumb.

The second is in the roof of your mouth. Getting to this one is a bit inelegant. Press your thumb against the roof of your mouth, and at the same time, press down on the bridge of your nose, and squeeze.

You'll know when it feels right, as the pressure can drop right away and / or you can feel the air entering your ears. Just be prepared for a snot deluge down the back of your throat.

Top tip... I shall remember that.
 

midlife

Legendary Member
For symptomatic relief of sinus pressure and the like, good old Karvol capsule in a bowl of hot water / towel over the head works quite well. Nasonex is ok for the very short term but has rebound.

Duraphat toothpaste is simply ordinary toothpaste with a bit more fluoride and is used to reduce dental decay in people that have increased risk. Dry mouth following radiotherapy for example it’s prescription only mainly as it’s to be kept away from small children
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
If it is tooth related and not sinus, then clove bud oil is absolute magic. Just rub a tiny on the painful tooth
 

YMFB

Senior Member
Am I correct that that is prescription only in the UK ?

Correction it’s the 2800, not the 5000.

Im fairly sure I picked it up in Boots, but as I only use it occasionally and have had it ages I can’t be 100%. If it was prescription only id have bought it at the dentists.

It works for me and someone who I previously worked with told me they use it with similar results.
 
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