Tour de France 2026 ***Spoilers***

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No Ta Doctor

Veteran
Indeed. It leaves me wondering whether he would have ended up challenging Jonas for second, had Jonas not crashed. Probably not, but we'll never know now.

The dynamics of the race would have been very different, that's for sure. Visma were lining something up when Jonas crashed out (I understand scepticism over whether he could have carried it out) and from that moment Pog only went nuclear on the Alpe. The fact that Jonas was the only rider attempting to challenge Pogacar and had no real interest in chalking up yet another second place had already been exploited by the podium hopefuls as they could sit in his wheel while he tried to pull back Pogacar and then mug him at the end. This happened twice - notably on stages where the final climb wasn't the actual finish and were that climb wasn't all that hard/long:
- Le Markstein, where Jonas tried to ride people off his wheel but the climb had too many flatter (and downhill!) sections - Pog launches near the top and then Jonas has to tow the rest home
- Le Lorian, where Pog attacked from further out on a Cat 1 and Jonas was left trying to reel him in

I'm not sure which of these stages there was actually some cooperation in the group until Lipowitz decided some rapid changes of pace were needed, dropping Remco and blowing up any cooperation from the Trek riders, was it Le Lorian? Remco clawed his way back, sat in (fair enough!) and then mugged the whole group.

If Jonas did have a little more for the third week - and specifically for the longer climbs - then I'm not convinced Remco could have stayed with him, and I think those later stages were far more suited to a W/Kg battle than those where Jonas lost time to the podium group
 

mrushton

Well-Known Member
Anyone think Jonas will bother again? Only so many times he can hope Pog is having a bad day.
Those who think Carapaz should have waited need to stay on Zwift. Jonas crashing at 60km to go warrants a lull in the proceedings but not someone falling off at 4km to go
 

mididoctors

Veteran
The dynamics of the race would have been very different, that's for sure. Visma were lining something up when Jonas crashed out (I understand scepticism over whether he could have carried it out) and from that moment Pog only went nuclear on the Alpe. The fact that Jonas was the only rider attempting to challenge Pogacar and had no real interest in chalking up yet another second place had already been exploited by the podium hopefuls as they could sit in his wheel while he tried to pull back Pogacar and then mug him at the end. This happened twice - notably on stages where the final climb wasn't the actual finish and were that climb wasn't all that hard/long:
- Le Markstein, where Jonas tried to ride people off his wheel but the climb had too many flatter (and downhill!) sections - Pog launches near the top and then Jonas has to tow the rest home
- Le Lorian, where Pog attacked from further out on a Cat 1 and Jonas was left trying to reel him in

I'm not sure which of these stages there was actually some cooperation in the group until Lipowitz decided some rapid changes of pace were needed, dropping Remco and blowing up any cooperation from the Trek riders, was it Le Lorian? Remco clawed his way back, sat in (fair enough!) and then mugged the whole group.

If Jonas did have a little more for the third week - and specifically for the longer climbs - then I'm not convinced Remco could have stayed with him, and I think those later stages were far more suited to a W/Kg battle than those where Jonas lost time to the podium group

Remco was vulnerable in the first two weeks on the climbs but came good towards the end of the second
 

mididoctors

Veteran
Anyone think Jonas will bother again? Only so many times he can hope Pog is having a bad day.
Those who think Carapaz should have waited need to stay on Zwift. Jonas crashing at 60km to go warrants a lull in the proceedings but not someone falling off at 4km to go

Not with the giro in his legs he won't .... But I sense a nearing of the end
 

NorthernSky

Legendary Member
just got finished with the highlights.
shame those 3 guys didn't work better together on the first alp dhuez stage, they could have taken it i think, but they just all looked at each other a lot of the time, Pog even said it himself they helped him take it.
glad carapaz got his stage win, well deserved
it was a quite enjoyable tour even though there was never really a chance of anyone other than pog winning. do they just put rumours out that he is not well to make us think others have a chance ^_^
 

kingrollo

Legendary Member
The dynamics of the race would have been very different, that's for sure. Visma were lining something up when Jonas crashed out (I understand scepticism over whether he could have carried it out) and from that moment Pog only went nuclear on the Alpe. The fact that Jonas was the only rider attempting to challenge Pogacar and had no real interest in chalking up yet another second place had already been exploited by the podium hopefuls as they could sit in his wheel while he tried to pull back Pogacar and then mug him at the end. This happened twice - notably on stages where the final climb wasn't the actual finish and were that climb wasn't all that hard/long:
- Le Markstein, where Jonas tried to ride people off his wheel but the climb had too many flatter (and downhill!) sections - Pog launches near the top and then Jonas has to tow the rest home
- Le Lorian, where Pog attacked from further out on a Cat 1 and Jonas was left trying to reel him in

I'm not sure which of these stages there was actually some cooperation in the group until Lipowitz decided some rapid changes of pace were needed, dropping Remco and blowing up any cooperation from the Trek riders, was it Le Lorian? Remco clawed his way back, sat in (fair enough!) and then mugged the whole group.

If Jonas did have a little more for the third week - and specifically for the longer climbs - then I'm not convinced Remco could have stayed with him, and I think those later stages were far more suited to a W/Kg battle than those where Jonas lost time to the podium group

Did Jonas attempt to challenge Pog.
Must have missed that bit.
 

phreak

Senior Member
Indeed. It leaves me wondering whether he would have ended up challenging Jonas for second, had Jonas not crashed. Probably not, but we'll never know now.

I wonder if the organisers will offer up a more traditional parcours with more time trial'ing to create a closer race. Maybe put a big one before any mountains so Remco has a lead to defend.
 

kingrollo

Legendary Member
What a final stage !!!!!!
Not hyperbole to suggest it was the best ever finale day.

Ive been watching since 1989 - and tbh the last day as a procession was very long in the tooth.

But that yesterday was cycling racing at is ts very best - it could have gone so many ways in the last 500m - just brilliant.
 

No Ta Doctor

Veteran
The winnings table, in Euros, but helpfully with Danish Kroner also included so you don't need to work out the conversion


1UAE Team Emirates - XRG832.750 €6.203.988 kr.
2Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe288.160 €2.147.792 kr.
3Lidl - Trek204.870 €1.526.272 kr.
4Decathlon CMA CGM Team165.530 €1.233.699 kr.
5EF Education - EasyPost124.160 €925.792 kr.
6Alpecin - Premier Tech87.840 €653.328 kr.
7Bahrain - Victorious86.820 €646.899 kr.
8Team Visma | Lease a Bike71.210 €530.515 kr.
9Soudal Quick-Step65.810 €489.295 kr.
10Uno-X Mobility45.660 €340.677 kr.
11Team Jayco AlUla44.020 €327.749 kr.
12XDS Astana Team39.920 €297.224 kr.
13NSN Cycling Team37.100 €276.395 kr.
14Lotto Intermarché35.690 €265.401 kr.
15Pinarello Q36.5 Pro Cycling Team31.350 €233.558 kr.
16TotalEnergies23.920 €178.204 kr.
17Netcompany INEOS23.760 €177.072 kr.
18Movistar Team18.790 €140.376 kr.
19Tudor Pro Cycling Team16.760 €124.262 kr.
20Cofidis15.440 €115.528 kr.
21Groupama - FDJ United14.700 €109.515 kr.
22Caja Rural - Seguros RGA13.570 €101.697 kr.
23Team Picnic PostNL12.770 €95.137 kr.
 
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