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lit

Well-Known Member
Location
Surrey
"lyrca lout" already, oh dear.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Going to have to watch on-line later -kids watching Merlin, and wife wouldn't be too happy to see the case studies of dead cyclists.....
 
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skudupnorth

skudupnorth

Cycling Skoda lover
Hmmmmm Still comes across that it's our fault to be there :sad: I think the whole blame on motorists could cause even more anti-cycling thoughts as if we need anymore !
Need to move to Holland,just loved that cycle path,wonder if there is a cycle version of a motorway for the faster cyclist ???

That Steve guy summed up the idiot sector in the motorists,just did not want cylists anywhere EVER !
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Well produced crash scenes. NOOOOOOOOT!

how often is a left hook caused by a cyclists tailgating. not as often as a car overtaking a cyclists and then turning left!

When do you see a cyclists suddenly swerve around a parked car? me, never seen it happen.

Some good arguments from Simon and the CTC guy!
 

potsy

Rambler
Location
My Armchair
Just watched it with the mrs,she says I'm never allowed on the bike again:smile:
Was ok,left hook mentioned but only cyclist under-taking a turning car,not cars deliberately over-taking then doing a sharp left:angry:
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Left hooks are usually overtake, or not even that...just force the bugger out of the way.....had one of those last year....then one many years ago with a transit...... that one had me airborne.......
 
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skudupnorth

skudupnorth

Cycling Skoda lover
I agree,who in their right mind would under take an indicating car and swerve such a way around a car that you just pop up in front of moving traffic.
They would never create the true left turn accident where WE get overtaken and squished by the tit turning left !
I do think planning to make motorists responsible for every accident even if it is the fault of the cyclists is a bad move though,we all know there are some absolute cocks on two wheels out there and we know they are the ones Mr Motorist remembers.
I wish cycle paths in the UK were as wide as the Dutch ones,the crap i have to try and ride in Bolton is worse than riding off road up Rivington Pike !!!
Good to see something about the problem on TV at last,shame about the guy who got killed by a truck.I pass a spot on my route where a guy got killed but no one was caught as it was early morning,always give a nod at the flowers.
 
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