Update on NV55PVL

[addictfreak]

Further Update: NV55PVL

Person came round who was the same that interview me.
In turn i have been informed im acting vigilant and that im a danger to myself.
Alot of discussion as he came round to issue an offical warning!
I reported the driver on the phone to his employer. However this is not called harassment. Is this true?
He said that he could be easily arresting me today for harassment but he wasn't going too.
The person i reported has apparently made a harassment complaint against me since i have reported him to his employer and the police. This was made clear by the fact the officer said he could arrest me and told me.
He said video people and posting it on YouTube is illegal, which is clearly not.
I had in effect been told off and informed that this account will be logged on the police database.
I also brought up the fact, should not report things like this to the police. He said in effect no as its the polices job to police. He told me that was i was doing was self policing.
Also he made a comment about how cyclists should not be in the middle of the road.
What are your thoughts?

Make a formal complaint to the Chief Constable of Northumbria Police, and CC the new Police Commissioner if you are not happy.
Otherwise get rid of the camera and just ride your bike.

 

[Mugshot]

he said road.

Well if he meant road as in on the white lines as seen in the vid then I'd say it's not always advisable if he meant lane he's an idiot. As for the rest, he's an idiot.

 

[Cycling Dan]

That doesn't seem acceptable to me. I'd pm Drago/CopperCyclist/Cubist and ask them for advice, but I think I'd want to make a complaint about that police officer's behaviour and training.

I don't know what you did exactly, but a simple report to employer and police surely can't be harrassment? His comments about riding in the middle of the road and videoing and uploading to YouTube are clearly wrong and ignorant.

what i have done eactly is what ive posted about, i have done nothing more or less.
he pick up on my langauge on some videos and said its a public disorder act and could arrest me also for that and said im a idiot to be filming it "how stupid are you" exact words..

He then talked about a video which i stated i went 47mph in a 30 zone. less this was taken at face value in fact it was a lie to roust up the youtube audience, i didnt go over 33... sorry for lieing. He said he could get people in that would work on the video and get my exact speed. Very hipocritical after he said made clear through belittling me that they don't have enough resources to handle stuff like phones but is willing to use the whole police force to prove i was speeding.

 

[Boris Bajic]

Regarding the visit from a copper a few posts above this one: I find this slightly troubling.

Somebody here is looking as though they take themselves and their headcam footage all slightly more seriously than much of the rest of the World does. It can hurt when this disparity of opinion becomes apparent, but Internet forums can help with the grieving process.

We have only your word for the chat with the visiting copper, but it sounds to me as if the purpose of the visit was to persuade a member of the public in a diplomatic way to kindly wind their neck in and stop having heart attacks about relatively minor events or non-events. If that is so, the visit may not have been successful, but not for want of trying I am sure.

As ever, I may be wrong.

Have you ever thought of getting a hobby? I'm told that all UK trains have unique identifying numbers that can be collected in a notebook.

 

[campbellab]

Make a formal complaint to the Chief Constable of Northumbria Police, and CC the new Police Commissioner if you are not happy.
Otherwise get rid of the camera and just ride your bike.

Make a formal complaint. I dont want police officers who think that contacting employer and police about poor/illegal driving is harassment. Adding videos to youtube could be harassing, but as you dont target this specific indvidual but have a habit of showing poor driving then its not...

I'd make a timeline of events and try to document clearly what the officer said - not on here keep it private. If you want to appeal to commissioner etc I would expect wording that you feel victimised for reporting a crime would fit well - and I'm pretty confident thats exactly how you are feeling.

I'd also not speak to the officer on your own again (not saying you need legal aid but have someone who can listen without taking part and potentially take notes). They can also help you understand if you are overreacting by giving a more impartial view.

 

[campbellab]

what i have done eactly is what ive posted about, i have done nothing more or less.
he pick up on my langauge on some videos and said its a public disorder act and could arrest me also for that and said im a idiot to be filming it "how stupid are you" exact words..

He then talked about a video which i stated i went 47mph in a 30 zone. less this was taken at face value in fact it was a lie to roust up the youtube audience, i didnt go over 33... sorry for lieing. He said he could get people in that would work on the video and get my exact speed. Very hipocritical after he said made clear through belittling me that they don't have enough resources to handle stuff like phones but is willing to use the whole police force to prove i was speeding.

You could potentially check speeds by noting timings on video against a landmark and measuring distance between them. Depends on quality of video, you'd really need a road marking near to wheel in view. There's no speed limit for bikes - but could try and do you for another cycling offence.

Remove any incriminating evidence from your account (swearing etc) I doubt he's clever enough to have made a copy.

 

[Mugshot]

We have only your word for the chat with the visiting copper, but it sounds to me as if the purpose of the visit was to persuade a member of the public in a diplomatic way to kindly wind their neck in and stop having heart attacks about relatively minor events or non-events. If that is so, the visit may not have been successful, but not for want of trying I am sure.

I think I agree with your sentiments Boris, but I don't think Cycling Dans transcript sounds very diplomatic, as you have rightly pointed out it's the OPs version of events, but assuming they are accurate then if diplomatic was the intended sentiment I think the officer failed. Perhaps a friendly arm around the shoulder and a "Now listen son....." would have left Dan with a nice warm glow (are coppers allowed to put an arm round the shoulders?)

 

[BSRU]

Further Update: NV55PVL

Person came round who was the same that interview me.
In turn i have been informed im acting vigilant and that im a danger to myself.
Alot of discussion as he came round to issue an offical warning!
I reported the driver on the phone to his employer. However this is not called harassment. Is this true?
He said that he could be easily arresting me today for harassment but he wasn't going too.
The person i reported has apparently made a harassment complaint against me since i have reported him to his employer and the police. This was made clear by the fact the officer said he could arrest me and told me.
He said video people and posting it on YouTube is illegal, which is clearly not.
I had in effect been told off and informed that this account will be logged on the police database.
I also brought up the fact, should not report things like this to the police. He said in effect no as its the polices job to police. He told me that was i was doing was self policing.
Also he made a comment about how cyclists should not be in the middle of the road.
What are your thoughts?

I have had a similar experience in the past, the officer in my case was obviously biased towards the driver and was not interested in anything I had to say. I would understood if the officer had just stated it was not serious enough to merit any more Police time instead of trying to blame me.
I think the main problem is complete lack of traffic officers with their experience/expertise to handle traffic cases.

 

[Hip Priest]

I watched that 47mph clip yesterday and thought 'blimey! He's got balls doing 47 in a built-up area!'

 

[Boris Bajic]

what i have done eactly is what ive posted about, i have done nothing more or less.
he pick up on my langauge on some videos and said its a public disorder act and could arrest me also for that and said im a idiot to be filming it "how stupid are you" exact words..

He then talked about a video which i stated i went 47mph in a 30 zone. less this was taken at face value in fact it was a lie to roust up the youtube audience, i didnt go over 33... sorry for lieing. He said he could get people in that would work on the video and get my exact speed. Very hipocritical after he said made clear through belittling me that they don't have enough resources to handle stuff like phones but is willing to use the whole police force to prove i was speeding.

This might be the nutshell revelation we've been looking for.

We appear to be dealing here with somebody who posts footage online claiming they are travelling at 47mph in a 30mph zone.

This claim was made (in his own words) to boost a Youtube audience. The claimed true figure is now 33mph.

This is sad and unsettling in so many ways that further comment in superfluous... But when did that ever stop me?

Cycling dan, get a hobby. Not one involving sharp pencils.

Really.

 

[Kins]

The more you read, the more you wonder about Dan, and truth, and when the two shall meet.

 

[Pale Rider]

I would complain, in very temperate terms, about the officer.

What Dan did nowhere near amounts to harassment and coppers need to understand they cannot mislead the public about criminal offences - deliberately or otherwise.

I anticipate the complaint will be dealt via informal resolution and Dan will receive contact from a senior officer to tell him so.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

I
I think the main problem is complete lack of traffic officers with their experience/expertise to handle traffic cases.

No, the main problem is naive people turning up at the Police station and expecting the police to do what they want them to do on their terms only. Remember that 500lb gorilla I said the media was, well the law is a 1,000 lb gorilla. If somone does a hit and run on your car, the police WILL nick you for your bald tyre. If you have a break in, the police will nick you for the gram of coke in your cupboard. Once you invlove the police or media you lose all control over the outcome .

 

[BentMikey]

If you do go the route of making a complaint, I would strongly suggest you get the wording looked at by people on here.

 

[campbellab]

If you do go the route of making a complaint, I would strongly suggest you get the wording looked at by people on here.

But I'd keep it and your actions private from now on. You have links from youtube to the forum. Just like the car driver making a complaint against you when he was in the wrong, dont expect the officer is any better.You probably want to chat it through with someone sensible that you know as well.