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Pale Rider

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If you do go the route of making a complaint, I would strongly suggest you get the wording looked at by people on here.

PC Snodgrass threatened to arrest me for harassment after I informed him of a driver using a mobile phone and told the driver's employer.

I think the actions of PC Snodgrass were inappropriate.

Please advise.

Dan.
 
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400bhp

Guru
No, the main problem is naive people turning up at the Police station and expecting the police to do what they want them to do on their terms only. Remember that 500lb gorilla I said the media was, well the law is a 1,000 lb gorilla. If somone does a hit and run on your car, the police WILL nick for a bald tyre. If you have a break in, the police will nick you for the gram of coke in your cupboard. Once you invlove the police or media you lose all control over the outcome .

Absolutely spot on.
 

Hip Priest

Veteran
Dan, what did your parents think about you receiving a visit from the police? I really think you should discuss these matters with those closest to you (family, friends...etc) rather than on here, because quite frankly you're being egged-on by zealots.

FWIW I think the police officer was a little harsh with you, but if I were you I'd drop it.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
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Epsom
... the light went red around the time my body past the white line, which i dont even think is a rlj since my front wheel was over ...

The offence is if any part of your vehicle crosses the line when the light is red.

In your situation though I would probably have done the same with a tailgating driver so close behind.
 
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Dan, I do not agree with you reporting the guy & I do think you have issues & need to grow up, but if our version of the events are correct I think the Police response was even worse. I would request a meeting with a senior Police officer & just talk the whole situation through.

Alan...
 

Hip Priest

Veteran
Touche!

Isn't this topic quite the most inspiring and joyful thing to have in the most depressing month of the year?

Quite. Shall we go back to describing the hypothetical funerals of each others' children in excessively graphic terms? You like that don't you?
 

PK99

Legendary Member
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You have said a lot of things that I agree with. Especially with the police saying that "There are few cyclists in the area and you are acting like a vigilante" "You cannot go around shouting at everyone" "I have seen a few of your other videos" "You are becoming well known in the area" "Watch yourself".

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The same message you have been given here many times!

Listen to it and act on it!

Whenever I leave the police station after reporting something, I always end up feeling like the target of bullying somehow.

Because Asperger's makes it difficult for you to appreciate that other people can have valid view that are different from yours?
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Because Asperger's makes it difficult for you to appreciate that other people can have valid view that are different from yours?
Thats probably it. TBH I forgot to mention to the officer that I was Autistic. I doubt that would have changed things much.

When he said "If he harasses you again then he will be getting locked up" i replied "I would be very surprised if he tried anything again, knowing the consequences". But there is a very likely chance that he will take some sort of revenge if he does ever see me again. And then it wont be me posting, but someone on my behalf.
 

J.Primus

Senior Member
Further Update: NV55PVL

Person came round who was the same that interview me.
In turn i have been informed im acting vigilant and that im a danger to myself.
Alot of discussion as he came round to issue an offical warning!
I reported the driver on the phone to his employer. However this is not called harassment. Is this true?
He said that he could be easily arresting me today for harassment but he wasn't going too.
The person i reported has apparently made a harassment complaint against me since i have reported him to his employer and the police. This was made clear by the fact the officer said he could arrest me and told me.
He said video people and posting it on YouTube is illegal, which is clearly not.
I had in effect been told off and informed that this account will be logged on the police database.
I also brought up the fact, should not report things like this to the police. He said in effect no as its the polices job to police. He told me that was i was doing was self policing.
Also he made a comment about how cyclists should not be in the middle of the road.
What are your thoughts?

I would think that after the police told you to leave it and you then went to the persons employer is where you crossed the line into harassment.
You don't have a right to do that unfortunately.
If I was you I'd concentrate on school and try and stop antagonising people before you get yourself into real trouble.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
No, the main problem is naive people turning up at the Police station and expecting the police to do what they want them to do on their terms only. Remember that 500lb gorilla I said the media was, well the law is a 1,000 lb gorilla. If somone does a hit and run on your car, the police WILL nick you for your bald tyre. If you have a break in, the police will nick you for the gram of coke in your cupboard. Once you invlove the police or media you lose all control over the outcome .
I agree, last week I had a SMIDSY from a car with no tax and it turns out no insurance, reported the no tax to the DVLA but decided not to report the no insurance to the Police as they may want to know how I know about no insurance.
Also I think the naivety for most people is believing the Police are there to prevent crime and catch/help prosecute law breakers, unfortunately funds reduce/limit the Police's/CPS's ability to meet peoples expectations.
 

campbellab

Senior Member
Location
Swindon
I would think that after the police told you to leave it and you then went to the persons employer is where you crossed the line into harassment.
You don't have a right to do that unfortunately.
If I was you I'd concentrate on school and try and stop antagonising people before you get yourself into real trouble.

I dont think that was the order of events though. Incident -> Reported to Employer and Police. Even still reporting criminal driving to an employer when they're in an employer marked vehicle I wouldn't count as harassment.
 
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