Update on NV55PVL

[Pale Rider]

What i am not happy with is that i have been issued a formal warning for harassment which to my knowledge has been noted down on the police database.

Nor would I be.

Sending a couple of emails as you describe is not harassment, even if some might call it busybodying.

I would complain on the basis the formal warning has been incorrectly issued.

The worst they can do is tell you to get stuffed.

 

[Matthew_T]

Yes it would be worth my time since i got a formal harassment warning from the guy and this is on police record.

You do understand that you need to have two seperate accounts of harassment to have a Harassment notice. Further harassment then means that you will be arrested.

Did the police count your reporting to the company as 1 or 2 counts of harassment?

 

[campbellab]

You do understand that you need to have two seperate accounts of harassment to have a Harassment notice. Further harassment then means that you will be arrested.

Did the police count your reporting to the company as 1 or 2 counts of harassment?

Crazy that reporting a crime to the police is classed as harassment. Especially if police act on it!

 

[Cycling Dan]

You do understand that you need to have two seperate accounts of harassment to have a Harassment notice. Further harassment then means that you will be arrested.

Did the police count your reporting to the company as 1 or 2 counts of harassment?

He didnt say, he was very vague in the whole thing. Spent more time telling me off about reporting things to the police.
He in affect said dont report anything to the police as "Its not your place" "Let the police do the policing"
I challenged him alot on just about everything wrong he said like filming needing peoples permissions and so on and so forth but always deflected the question.
In the end it was left at well your parents know. My dad supports me in this matter.

 

[fossyant]

Yes it would be worth my time since i got a formal harassment warning from the guy and this is on police record.

Have I got this right ?

Erm, You have the formal warning ? If so, then it's about time you thought twice about your actions, or you will end up on the wrong side of the law.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Have I got this right ?

Erm, You have the formal warning ? If so, then it's about time you thought twice about your actions, or you will end up on the wrong side of the law.

For reporting a driver who was breaking the law to the police and his employer yes.

 

[campbellab]

He didnt say, he was very vague in the whole thing. Spent more time telling me off about reporting things to the police.
He in affect said dont report anything to the police as "Its not your place" "Let the police do the policing"
I challenged him alot on just about everything wrong he said like filming needing peoples permissions and so on and so forth but always deflected the question.
In the end it was left at well your parents know. My dad supports me in this matter.

You should definitely know where you stand, from the way you describe it he hasn't given you a formal warning and just 'advice' like he gave the other guy (sounds like a paper dodger to me!). I assume someone can tell you exactly what needs to occur for this to be official, or whether being informed verbally suffices.

 

[fossyant]

For reporting a driver who was breaking the law to the police and his employer yes.

Well time to get off your 'young' high horse and calm down, and just enjoy your cycling.

 

[Cycling Dan]

I forget to note that the officer said it was my fault that the driver could lose his job or his business. I made it clear to him with the words. Its not my fault he got caught, its his fault of what ever comes next because He was the one breaking the law.. Lets just say the officer was in no way happy with what i said.

 

[Hip Priest]

For reporting a driver who was breaking the law to the police and his employer yes.

He is self-employed.

 

[J.Primus]

He didnt say, he was very vague in the whole thing. Spent more time telling me off about reporting things to the police.
He in affect said dont report anything to the police as "Its not your place" "Let the police do the policing"
I challenged him alot on just about everything wrong he said like filming needing peoples permissions and so on and so forth but always deflected the question.
In the end it was left at well your parents know. My dad supports me in this matter.

This is the official advice on warnings.
https://www.gov.uk/caution-warning-penalty

You're allowed to film in public place but if you've got a warning for harrassing people and posting the footage on youtube you proabably want to pack it in.
You can be as technically right as you want but the world is not as black and white as you think, and once you're established as that nutter who films people and badgers the police about it then no-one will listen to you at all, no matter how right you think you are.

You say your Dad supports you, does he know the full extent of what your doing?

 

[Cycling Dan]

He is self-employed.

What he is, is a franchise owner... i reported him to the parent company.

 

[Cycling Dan]

This is the official advice on warnings.
https://www.gov.uk/caution-warning-penalty

You're allowed to film in public place but if you've got a warning for harrassing people and posting the footage on youtube you proabably want to pack it in.
You can be as technically right as you want but the world is not as black and white as you think, and once you're established as that nutter who films people and badgers the police about it then no-one will listen to you at all, no matter how right you think you are.

You say your Dad supports you, does he know the full extent what your doing?

He watches the videos and he knows to a full extent.

 

[J.Primus]

I forget to note that the officer said it was my fault that the driver could lose his job or his business. I made it clear to him with the words. Its not my fault he got caught, its his fault of what ever comes next because He was the one breaking the law.. Lets just say the officer was in no way happy with what i said.

I'm sure he wasn't, what you've described is not a good thing. When I police officer is explaining to you how your heading towards a harrasment charge you should probably be listening and not trying to be right. The unfortunate truth is no-one in the real world really cares if you're right or not. They will care if you've got a conviction.

 

[Pale Rider]

This is the official advice on warnings.
https://www.gov.uk/caution-warning-penalty

From the link:

"The police or Crown Prosecution Service can give you a caution (warning) or a penalty notice if you commit a minor crime"

This helps Dan because he has not committed a crime, minor or otherwise.