Upgrading groupset Dura Ace to Tiagra

Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by mustang1, 15 Mar 2019 at 05:26.

  1. vickster

    vickster Legendary Member

    He is a couple of weeks early for 1 April but fair play :laugh:
     
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  2. Adam4868

    Adam4868 Veteran

    Last couple of bikes both had 10 speed ultegra,sold one and bought a cube with the new 10 speed tiagra.Other than the writing on groupset I can't tell the difference.
     
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  3. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    Yes the OP and the poster above are both 'avin' a larf.
     
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  4. Adam4868

    Adam4868 Veteran

    Me ?
     
  5. OP
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    mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    If Shimano decided to charge less for DA than Tiagra, then everyone would feel the need to upgrade to Tiagra.

    My argument is DA is only considered high-end because it's at a higher price. Sure, it's a BIT smoother and lighter, but not as long lasting. So which part of that is considered an "upgrade". It's just marketing and price points.
     
  6. OP
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    mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    Nah, I did say that Tiagra is heavier but also said that many people reckon weight does not matter as much as one thinks.
     
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  7. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    Of course it doesn't but some people just like stuff that's beautifully engineered and finished. Most of the car, bike, boat and motorbike customising business wouldn't exist otherwise.
     
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  8. dodgy

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    A rather clumsy version of the original much snappier quote "strong, light, cheap, pick two"
     
  9. OP
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    mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    How about 10 SPD DA for 11 SPD 105 ? :smile:
     
  10. OP
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    mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    I am currently drinking tea from a beautiful porcelain cup and saucer. My SO I having the same tea but her cup has gold stripes. Hers is the uograded version.

    If it was a car, it would have an SE badge slapped onto it. :smile:
     
  11. OP
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    mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    Now then, on to perfumes. I have a bottle of ultegra perfume but want to upgrade to....
     
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  12. Adam4868

    Adam4868 Veteran

    Old spice ?
     
  13. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    But it still matters, and so does the fact that it is smoother, Whether it matters to you depends on the use you put it to, how much you prefer the advantages and if you can afford to pay for those.

    Ultimately all shift systems change gear when you click the lever but some do it a bit better than others.
     
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  14. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    There's even a difference between Ultegra and DA, don't ask me how because people say they are the same apart from the finish. DA is the mutt's nuts.
     
  15. OP
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    mustang1

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    That's like Shimano Tourney... :smile:
     
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