andyoxon
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My team is without three riders now; gradually going backwards.
My team is without three riders now; gradually going backwards.
With second and fourth place on today's stage I take yet another cyclechat league stage victory.
Surely I must be hurtling towards the top of the GC? Well, kinda. Fourth from bottom.
You're not that bad. You're actually only fifth from bottom.

You're not that bad. You're actually only fifth from bottom.
No, definitely 4th from last (remember "last" and "first from last" are different things)
Here's how I see it but I could be wrongI don't think they are - fourth from last means fourth in the series, but counting in reverse order (last to first). It's not instructing you to count the gap from a position (last place + 4), it's instructing you to count the places backwards (last, second last, third last, fourth from last). First from last (never heard expression) is last, just as we never hear first from top - because it's top. Same as with third from bottom in the Premier league - it's a relegation place not just above the relegation zone.
At least that was how my coding master Obi Wan* Headgear explained it.
*We think it might be OB One = Out By One