Vintage Colnago Classic

[jwills]

The Shimano kit is 1986, 600 and 105. I would say the frame is older than 83 with the above BB chain guides and square fork crown.

The frame will be worth a few bob to a collector.

Where can I find a collector?

 

[jwills]

Yep, bikes of that era had cut out lugs and panto work to set them out from the crowd...


I would expect a Colnago of that era to have cloverleaves somewhere ?

Shaun

That's my confusion. Even I can see that the frame is Colnago, but the lack of clovers doesn't match up... Maybe it is a copy?

 

[fossyant]

Looking at the lugs and dropouts, it's not a colnago, sorry. The drop outs, where the wheel goes, will have colnago engraved. The lugs are too plain.

Sorry didn't look close enough.

Any serials on the BB shell (under the bike).

 

[fossyant]

It's still a decent frame - Reynolds 501 as a minimum as the seat stays are quite thin, which is what better quality steels could do. It's not 'gas pipe' so don't worry if you are disappointed.

 

[jwills]

Looking at the lugs and dropouts, it's not a colnago, sorry. The drop outs, where the wheel goes, will have colnago engraved. The lugs are too plain.

Sorry didn't look close enough.

Any serials on the BB shell (under the bike).

I'll check for a serial number tomorrow.

So what is it worth? And why on earth would someone make a similar frame and put Colnago on it? Colnagolover on Retrobike said that it looks more like a 70's era bike. Would the clovers have been present in that era?

 

[jwills]

It's still a decent frame - Reynolds 501 as a minimum as the seat stays are quite thin, which is what better quality steels could do. It's not 'gas pipe' so don't worry if you are disappointed.

So it could be worth keeping?

 

[fossyant]

Many folk re-paint frames and put other stickers on them. It's worth keeping though

 

[raleighnut]

So it could be worth keeping?

More likely to be Columbus tubing (still very desirable)

 

[Tanis8472]

https://lfgss.microco.sm/api/v1/files/22f8164f16572ce6528616c3b292f45082f42acc.jpg

Decals in wrong place Similar but not the same

 

[raleighnut]

https://lfgss.microco.sm/api/v1/files/22f8164f16572ce6528616c3b292f45082f42acc.jpg

Decals in wrong place Similar but not the same

Also no cable lugs on the top of the top tube.

 

[classic33]

https://lfgss.microco.sm/api/v1/files/22f8164f16572ce6528616c3b292f45082f42acc.jpg

Decals in wrong place Similar but not the same

Note the cut-out in the bottom bracket.

 

[classic33]

I'll check for a serial number tomorrow.

So what is it worth? And why on earth would someone make a similar frame and put Colnago on it? Colnagolover on Retrobike said that it looks more like a 70's era bike. Would the clovers have been present in that era?

The '73 version of the bike. http://www.cycleexif.com/colnago-super-73

 

[classic33]

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=8fe32341-7fea-4ff9-871c-a2cf2ea1d640&Enum=109

 

[Gatters]

looks like any old banger to me, a BSA maybe

 

[classic33]

looks like any old banger to me, a BSA maybe

Too much high end, for it's day, components on it for an "old banger". You can see in some of the pictures where the oil/grease has dried out. BSA's can be worth a bit more than people realise.

But why would you fit a frame out from the 50's to make it look like one from the 80's? Value removed in one fell swoop.