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classic33

Leg End Member
A relative - sort of - died a year ago and was cremated and 'his' ashes were given to the family in a plastic bag inside a box. But here's the thing: Dead people (we assume - although there have been instances) are laid out on the trolley in their clothes (including shoes) inside a cheap box of some material (I have heard it is often cardboard) and set afire.
So, a - say - 12 stone bloke, fully dressed is reduced, together with all his accoutrements - false teeth? - to ashes, and ends up in plastic bag of no more than half a cubic foot and the grieving family are told, "Here is your dad".
Inside a crematorium the burner - is that the nomenclature of the incinerator chap? - shovels away the remains of the fire and sweeps a handful of the ashes into the bag and dumps the rest in a bin.
So, how much of the ashes you tearfully receive from the mortuary folk, is really dear old dad?
For the UK
https://www.oliverjknapmanfuneralservice.co.uk/cremation_myths.html
 

Jameshow

Guru
A relative - sort of - died a year ago and was cremated and 'his' ashes were given to the family in a plastic bag inside a box. But here's the thing: Dead people (we assume - although there have been instances) are laid out on the trolley in their clothes (including shoes) inside a cheap box of some material (I have heard it is often cardboard) and set afire.
So, a - say - 12 stone bloke, fully dressed is reduced, together with all his accoutrements - false teeth? - to ashes, and ends up in plastic bag of no more than half a cubic foot and the grieving family are told, "Here is your dad".
Inside a crematorium the burner - is that the nomenclature of the incinerator chap? - shovels away the remains of the fire and sweeps a handful of the ashes into the bag and dumps the rest in a bin.
So, how much of the ashes you tearfully receive from the mortuary folk, is really dear old dad?

How much fossil fuel is used in cremation and what about the pollution?
 

classic33

Leg End Member
How much fossil fuel is used in cremation and what about the pollution?
A cremator uses about 285 kiloWatt hours of gas and 15kWh of electricity on average per cremation - roughly the same domestic energy demands as a single person for an entire month.
 

briantrumpet

Legendary Member
Location
Devon & Die
At least I've worked out where I'd like my ashes scattered, and charged an ex-pupil and now good friend to do the deed. It does require walking up a mountain, so he'd better stay alive and fit till I die. I know I won't be there to enjoy the party, but if I get the chance to mull over oblivion before I go, maybe the thought of my favourite place in the world will make the going bearable, or even sublime.

In the meantime, I plan to walk up that mountain a lot more times while I can. Carpe diem, and all that jazz.

Now there's an idea... a jazz party on the mountain... having once taken a real, full big band around ten Dartmoor Tors (including Haytor, Rippon Tor, and Hound Tor), anything's possible...
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
A relative - sort of - died a year ago and was cremated and 'his' ashes were given to the family in a plastic bag inside a box. But here's the thing: Dead people (we assume - although there have been instances) are laid out on the trolley in their clothes (including shoes) inside a cheap box of some material (I have heard it is often cardboard) and set afire.
So, a - say - 12 stone bloke, fully dressed is reduced, together with all his accoutrements - false teeth? - to ashes, and ends up in plastic bag of no more than half a cubic foot and the grieving family are told, "Here is your dad".
Inside a crematorium the burner - is that the nomenclature of the incinerator chap? - shovels away the remains of the fire and sweeps a handful of the ashes into the bag and dumps the rest in a bin.
So, how much of the ashes you tearfully receive from the mortuary folk, is really dear old dad?

Because, as had already been pointed out, the 'ashes' are actually the ground down skeleton (done after burning), so it should be relatively easy to separate at the time...

Do people really do still think it's just a pile of ashes? 🤔

In fact, why do we even call it 'ashes' in the first place? 🤷‍♂️
 
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classic33

Leg End Member
Best do it just the once then!
Can't see it being repeated, on the same person. Can you?
 

briantrumpet

Legendary Member
Location
Devon & Die
Because, as had already been pointed out, the 'ashes' are actually the ground down skeleton (done after burning), so it should be relatively easy to separate at the time...

Do people really do still think it's just a pile of ashes? 🤔

In fact, why do we even call it 'ashes' in the first place? 🤷‍♂️

I scattered both my dad's and mum's ashes in a local place they both knew well... in the intervening ten years after I 'did' Dad, I'd forgotten just how much ash there was when it came to Mum... quite hard to do it subtly, and even though I did it as inconspicuously as I could in undergrowth, it needed some rain to finish the job.
 
At least I've worked out where I'd like my ashes scattered, and charged an ex-pupil and now good friend to do the deed. It does require walking up a mountain, so he'd better stay alive and fit till I die. I know I won't be there to enjoy the party, but if I get the chance to mull over oblivion before I go, maybe the thought of my favourite place in the world will make the going bearable, or even sublime.

In the meantime, I plan to walk up that mountain a lot more times while I can. Carpe diem, and all that jazz.

Now there's an idea... a jazz party on the mountain... having once taken a real, full big band around ten Dartmoor Tors (including Haytor, Rippon Tor, and Hound Tor), anything's possible...

When the mother of a friend of mine died she asked that her ashes be spread over quite a large number of her favourite areas.
It took my friend a couple of years to do it with an ever-decreasing urn of her ashes.
 

briantrumpet

Legendary Member
Location
Devon & Die
When the mother of a friend of mine died she asked that her ashes be spread over quite a large number of her favourite areas.
It took my friend a couple of years to do it with an ever-decreasing urn of her ashes.

At least my instructions are a one-off, although it does involve a physical challenge and a 1700-mile round-trip carrying ashes for the outward leg... but the view will be worth it, as long as they stand upwind when they scatter me 🤣

This is it.

 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
Didn't Snowdonia national park recently isue a plea to stop people scattering human ashes? Apparently it's very heavy ash and doesn't disperse.

I think that very much depends on the particular crematorium. We scattered my mother's ashes from our 15ft boat into a Cornish creek on a beautiful sunny, still day. There were seven family members aboard. Being her eldest child, I was chosen as the first person to chuck a handful of ashes from the tasteful cardboard box that the funeral directors had provided. My handful looked and behaved almost like talcum powder......and blew straight into the face of my brother-in-law. We all roared with laughter and agreed that "Barbara would have loved that". The ashes at the bottom of the box were a bit grittier (presumably ground up bone from the cremulator) but hardly heavy.

Anyway, we started the outboard and headed for the pub where we all got faintly merry. It was a good day.

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