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wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
One of the most constructive things anyone can do is cook meals from fresh. I know that time pressures and lack of confidence with cooking can makes this difficult for a lot of people but it helps massively for anyone wanting to eat a well balanced diet. It allows you to control everything that goes into a dish; salt, fat, carbs etc. and also helps portion control (the other big issue as I suspect most people consume portions far bigger than they actually need). It also keeps you away from processed meals which as you say is a huge contributor to poor diet and weight gain.

I know people think buying fresh food is more costly, but unless you are buying large amounts of meat and/or fresh fish, it is much cheaper than ready meals. If you can batch cook you will also make food go further and save time with your own (far healthier) pre prepared meals.

Absolutely - in principle I agree entirely; although shamefully thanks to a range of factors I'm pretty much restricted to stuff out of packets. It's not as bad as it could be (I don't do ultra-processed / ready meals etc) but the closest I usually get to "preparing" a meal is taking some meat out of a packet, slinging it in the oven and serving it with veg or salad..

I can cook a mean soft-boiled egg and do fry-ups from scratch with decent meat from the butchers (yeah, nitrates etc). I'd love to have the skill and resolve of generations past to cook from absolutely base ingredients. Thats something I really admire and respect about my mum - we've had roadkill pheasant for dinner before, while she'll happily buy a whole chicken that's first roast, then stripped of meat for a pie before having the carcass boiled up for stock as a soup base. What little is discarded at the end is not edible in any case..

I hear you on the cost - even with ostensibly like-products you pay a lot for packaging and convenience... the stuff I get from the butchers for example is usually cheaper than / comparable to equivalents from the supermarket, but it's much better quality and there's less plastic waste. Veggies are also a great, low-cost ingredient.

Besides, the financial cost is only one part of the equation. I know a lot of people consider those who spend money on high quality food as snobbish, when in reality (for the most part) they're just buying decent quality while those who spend less are cheating themselves out of what their bodies need and will potentially pay with their health in the long term.

Hopefully one day I might be able to get a bit closer to the ideals you suggest :smile:
 

Gwylan

Guru
Location
All at sea⛵
Absolutely - in principle I agree entirely; although shamefully thanks to a range of factors I'm pretty much restricted to stuff out of packets. It's not as bad as it could be (I don't do ultra-processed / ready meals etc) but the closest I usually get to "preparing" a meal is taking some meat out of a packet, slinging it in the oven and serving it with veg or salad..

I can cook a mean soft-boiled egg and do fry-ups from scratch with decent meat from the butchers (yeah, nitrates etc). I'd love to have the skill and resolve of generations past to cook from absolutely base ingredients. Thats something I really admire and respect about my mum - we've had roadkill pheasant for dinner before, while she'll happily buy a whole chicken that's first roast, then stripped of meat for a pie before having the carcass boiled up for stock as a soup base. What little is discarded at the end is not edible in any case..

I hear you on the cost - even with ostensibly like-products you pay a lot for packaging and convenience... the stuff I get from the butchers for example is usually cheaper than / comparable to equivalents from the supermarket, but it's much better quality and there's less plastic waste. Veggies are also a great, low-cost ingredient.

Besides, the financial cost is only one part of the equation. I know a lot of people consider those who spend money on high quality food as snobbish, when in reality (for the most part) they're just buying decent quality while those who spend less are cheating themselves out of what their bodies need and will potentially pay with their health in the long term.

Hopefully one day I might be able to get a bit closer to the ideals you suggest :smile:

Any journey starts with the first step. Decide what it might be.
Then take it!

But it's not easy.
 

gzoom

Über Member
At my lightest I think my BMI was on the cusp of telling me that I was underwight, yet I still had tits and a belly..

It's known as skinny fat. Strength training something most cyclists ignore but itll change your body quite dramaticly!
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
Greetings all, my first post on here I believe, though I used to post on ye olde bikeradar one.
I have lost weight successfully before, but not by any scientific means, literally stopping eating cakes, chocolate, biscuits, and replacing chips with broccolli etc, eating/drinking a nutritious smoothie for breakfast.

I managed to get down to my ideal weight about 7 years ago, but then habits have slipped, few mental health things, job stresses, as well as the busy-ness and pressures of homelife etc (bulk excuses) and I was back up to my previous weight, in fact a bit more.

Last year I had a half hearted effort really, managed to shed 4kg, then I think it was more work related hassle, and I didn't shift anything more, then over christmas I went back up even more, and realised I had to do something about it.

Stumbled on a chap called the fitness chef on reels (Dry British humour) I think it was, who has his own recipes, and tries other peoples and gives an opinion as to how good/bad they are.
There is also an app, which I have subbed to, for £19.99 for 12 months.
On there I am able to track my calories (Not something I have ever done before or thought to do) plus all the other stuff like protein, fibre, fat etc etc.

I'm off to Spain twice this year for a bit of cycling, so that has spurred me on to properly lose some weight, and then really try and keep it off.
My theory/plan is that once I get down to my ideal weight, I won't abandon these lower calorie foods, but will instead perhaps have them 4 or 5 days a week, and then eat what I want/treat myself on the weekend in all likelihood.
My first trip is in around 6 weeks, and I'm fairly confident I might reach my initial 7kg loss target by that point.
If that all goes well, then to get down to what I deem my ideal weight, I'd need to lose a further 3.5kg, but I'm not off again until June, so I would certainly not attack it as aggressively as this.
I also want to do some running, but when I am too heavy it feels even more work that it normally does (I'm not a natural runner) and also my knees aren't massively impressed with it - so hopefully in 6 weeks that will be a different situation.

I'm a stats and data person, so this has actually ended up appealing to be a lot more than I thought it would.

I've only been using it since Jan 22nd (3 weeks today) but so far it's going really well.

The main parts for me that I am finding really useful are:

  • Decent range of low calorie recipes - we've made loads of these in the household, and they have almost universally been enjoyed
  • The recipes are not too complicated, or require rare/expensive ingredients
  • The ability to log my meals during the day, see easily what I have consumed, and what I have left to use should I want to
  • I can create 'custom' food, so items I make up, porridge and fruit for example, and then I can add that to single or multiple days
  • It has a camera/barcode scanny thing which is pretty useful - think this is pretty standard though

Negatives are the app isn't the most brilliant experience, it can be a bit clunky, and there are two areas to enter your weight, which I don't fully understand - the latter one you can also chuck a load of body measurements in should you want to.
I was adding in my turbo training activities, and the associated calories burned (Meant to be accurate I gather as it's from a power meter) but this didn't then seem to take it off what you had consumed, or at least what you had left to consume if you wanted to, so I've stopped spending time doing that, as it seems to achieve nothing.

Initially it set my calorie allowance at 2150, but I think with my heritage this is high, so have dropped it to 1800, plus I suspect at the age of 49, nearly 50, my metabolism has slowed significantly - in my 20s and early 30s I could basically eat anything and not put on weight.

Progress in those 3 weeks has been dramatic, I've managed to lose 4.1kg so far, so approaching 2/3rds of a stone in very old money.
I'm fully aware that early losses can be more significant, but despite a couple of plateaus and rises in there, the trend is downwards.

It hasn't just been the eating angle, I've also stepped up the exercise, and am trying to turbo 6 days a week, for between 50-90 minutes usually. Mostly fairly hard efforts, but yesterday I rode 50 minutes at more zone 2 kind of pace.
Today is a 75 minute reasonably hard workout.
In general those are burning somewhere around 400-600 calories, which x 6 is substantial.
I do follow these up with a whey protein shake, but then I've done that for years.

Additionally I have been upping my protein intake, more eggs, and some additional whey protein, and was surprised/happy to find that bacon medallions are not actually that bad for you.
I've completely cut out cakes and biscuits, though I do have the odd savoury cracker/Ritz type biscuit. I had cut out chocolate, but a couple of times have had a couple of blocks of 85% dark chocolate, and that seems to be enough now - when I was eating sugary stuff like it was going out of production, no amount was enough :-(

I'm going to have a semi regular lunch of one slice of bread, two bacon medallions and two poached eggs, which to me feels very extravagant for a midweek lunch, but is surprisingly not that bad for you or calorific, and I find very filling.
Another lunch I have been doing, is getting a 600ml container of fresh soup, chicken, or something of that ilk, using 200ml per day, and heating it with either peas or sweetcorn, and then cooking a portion of brown rice or wholemeal pasta and mix it all together - it's really filling, and I find very tasty - good for when the weather is like it is now, and I can get 3 lunches out of one pot.
 
You need to be careful of body weight loss vs fat loss.

For me I need to be consuming around 1g of protein per KG of body weight, more if I am training hard and I’m consuming relatively low fats, and those that I am are healthy fats.

You can be in a position where you are losing weight but it isn’t sustainable in the long run as your muscles providing fuel for the body instead of losing fat cells all because you are not taking in the right mix of food to maintain muscle mass.

My typical day consists of around 128g of protein, 179g carbs and 66g of fat which totals roughly 1900 calories.

I’m 5ft 7 and over the past 8 weeks gone from 184lb to 173lb as part of “body recomposition”.

My typical week consists of doing cardio 2 to 3 times a week (5k run, cycle commute to work), weight training 3 times a week (60mins) and a min of 10k steps a day.

I still have at least another 8 to 10 weeks before I get to my goal weight and body fat.

My muscles are getting stronger as I can see improvements in endurance and lifting heavier weights.
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
Yes agreed, and I'll be taking things slower and much more gradual once I get to my first target, I just feel hitting that milestone (for me) will be hugely motivational.
The first time I did the whole weight loss thing, I believe it took me some 18 months to gradually lose ~10kg.

Now I have this app, I can see my protein intake, and can see I've been consuming between 1 and 1.5g per kg for the duration of my time on it - I'd like to get higher, and perhaps I can, but for the time being I'm relatively comfortable with that.

I'll be honest, I've not yet been looking at carbs and fat, but may do so in the future, and after that first target is reached.

I'm awaiting the delivery of some body composition scales tomorrow, realise they are not scientific, but as long as they are consistent, it should provide me with yet more data and stats to analyse :laugh: and another gadget to play with.
Also, and more pragmatically, a tape measure - not a metal retractable one!

I've tried weights several times in the past, but always had such bad DOMS (I think that is the right term) that I have abandoned it not long after.
In my defence, I do work on low cadence high (for me) power on the bike, so there is some element of strength work in there for my legs at least, but maybe I will return to that at some point in the future.

I've been on the turbo every day since Saturday just gone, and plan to do a workout tomorrow, then have a day off on Saturday, before a fairly lengthy ~1hr 40 Girona route on Sunday.

My perception is that maybe a bit less time and intensity on the turbo is overall better for my metabolism, than 3 times a week going really hard, but that's just a guess on my part really, based on how I'm feeling, and how my body is responding.
Mixing it up with the odd race as well (Warming up beforehand) and I really enjoy those, although they do tend to be full on efforts.
 

normgow

Guru
Location
Germany
When Tyler Hamilton was told by his team manager he was too fat he used the following method:
Eat breakfast, go out training riding steadily for five to six hours.
When you arrive home drink a big bottle of mineral water (with gas).
Take a sleeping tablet and go to bed. Sleep until evening and eat a light meal.
Or take two sleeping tablets and sleep until breakfast time.
Go out training again ..........
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
A good app (free option available) is Cronometer which allows you to track your intake and it also links to activity apps (I have it linked to my Garmin watch so it knows when I have done cardio etc.)

It allows you to set your weight loss target in weight and time period and then shows your protein/crbs/fat intake based on what you log. Whilst not necessary, it is quite telling when you see how certain foods are composed and how this adds up over the day.

I agree with @bikingdad90 that we ALL need around 1.8-2g of protein per Kg of weight per day.

Important to note as well that we should all be doing some form of strength exercises to maintain muscle mass, particularly as we age so that we maintain our mobility and also to reduce our fat% as a total of our overall weight. @Dan Lotus light weights and just body weight resistance are good to start then build as your technique and strength develop. DOMS are often result of pushing too hard too quickly.

A good routine is one that is sustainable and achievable based on your circumstances.
 

postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
Be very careful how much you lose.Phil-b has not been seem since August 2025.Slimmer of the Year Award goes to him.
 

sevenfourate

Devotee of OCD
I seem to currently be on this program below. I swear the more I cycle - the more weight i put on 🤷‍♂️

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