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Drink more water.
Boiled, with a tea bag.
 

blazed

220lb+
Yes in your case.
What are you talking about? Because I said I want to lose 14lbs for cycling purposes doesn't support your argument I am fat in any way shape or form.

Ten thousand calories equates to about 18 Big Macs.

I'm no dietician, but I reckon eating that many every day would pile on a bit of lard, no matter how hard you exercised.

I believe Michael Phelps used to eat 12,000 calories a day whilst remaining trim and cut.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...elps-12-000-calories-day-dont-doing-harm.html
 

Citius

Guest
Come on - tell us your height? It's an innocuous - yet critical - question. You should have no problem answering it.
 

blazed

220lb+
Come on - tell us your height? It's an innocuous - yet critical - question. You should have no problem answering it.
It is not critical, it has no relevance. You're of the belief that someone can only be 200-210lbs and not fat if they are extremely tall.
 

Saluki

World class procrastinator
To be fair Blazed you are intelligent enough to know that many of your posts look slightly troll like to some people. The fact that you refuse to back up your claims gives other even more doubt in you. I do not think even SA is doing 10,000 calories a day.

I would welcome being educated and I mean that.
If you were to take these 10,000 calories and subtract 2000 for just living - which I am led to believe is about right - and then cycle @ 40 calories a mile (that's what we reckon we burn when vaugely fit, is it not?) then SA doing 200 miles a day would burn those 8000 calories, in theory.

I would think though, that it would be quite hard to get 10,000 good quality calories down your neck on a daily basis. Drink lots of whole milk maybe? I can't see that stuffing 10 Big Mac Meals would help you to exercise. The fat and sodium content alone would be staggering. Not to mention feeling too stuffed to ride.
 

Citius

Guest
It is not critical, it has no relevance.

On the contrary. If you are of average height for a UK male, 210lbs puts you well into the 'over-weight' and possibly 'obese' category, according to the NHS chart. You would have to be 6'7 or more for this weight to be anything near 'normal'.

You're of the belief that someone can only be 200-210lbs and not fat if they are extremely tall.

It's not a belief - it's a fact. Or maybe you're just denser than most people..?

Come on - just tell us your height. Someone of your obvious abilities and talent should have no problem with that. It's not like I'm asking your for your bank details and PIN number, is it...
 

blazed

220lb+
On the contrary. If you are of average height for a UK male, 210lbs puts you well into the 'over-weight' and possibly 'obese' category, according to the NHS chart. You would have to be 6'7 or more for this weight to be anything near 'normal'.



It's not a belief - it's a fact. Or maybe you're just denser than most people..?

Come on - just tell us your height. Someone of your obvious abilities and talent should have no problem with that. It's not like I'm asking your for your bank details and PIN number, is it...
So according to you there is only one body type. Bmi is utterly useless for many. The fact you quote it is telling. Anyone who has done any weight lifting will have massively skewed bmi.
 

bozmandb9

Insert witty title here
So In November I managed to ride thru some of the worse weather I have ever ridden in to complete 500k in the month ( part of one of the strava challenges ) it's only the second time I've managed to do this but felt really proud of myself. December started and I had to move house as well as run a busy restaurant over the festive period. Just meant I had no time to get out on the bike.

January starts and I've put on a stone in weight and my fittness levels are appalling. Went out the other day and only managed 12k because the first few climbs were horrendous. Feeling really down as I'm looking at starting from square one. Any advice to help me motivate myself to get on the bike and off just eats website ?!!

I'd say make a lifestyle change Thunderlips. It sounds like you're in danger of yo-yoing. First thing is to fix your relationship with food. Sounds like you like to order in, and your relationship with food is about eating for pleasure, or comfort, plus valuing only convenience. Really you have to figure our your priorities, and whether it's really important to you to achieve your goal weight, and get fit. I think the weight issue is probably an irrelevance. Do you care about weight, or is it just a number?

What most of us want, is to be in great shape. Personally, I'm 13.5 stone. I'd be happy enough with that if my body fat was 10% or less, but it's not, I think it's about 2-3% over, which is why I eat to achieve my goals. I also use resistance training, and interval training.

As a society, we need to stop regarding food as entertainment, or source of pleasure. The pleasure is fleeting, and comes from a combination of sugar, salt and fat, which cause specific reactions in our brain. Food manufacturers know this formula very well, and will give us lots of products which conform to it. However after the high, always comes the low. Sugar spike, followed by crash. It's a downward spiral.

The attitude fix is to understand that food is not about 'calories'. For those who believe it's that simple, you can save a fortune by living off lard, save £80 per week, buy great bike bits, until you die within 3 months. Food is about nourishment. It gives energy, but equally importantly, it should give nutrients, vitamins, minerals, micro-nutrients. Eat the wrong foods (convenience, packaged, restaurant), and you're highly likely to lack in nutrients. Best way to eat is to make sure at leat 80% of what you put into your mouth either grew out of the ground, or had a face.

I'd say for the exercise side, initially, it needs to be willpower, but getting the diet right is a vital part of it, since eating junk food kills your energy. Incorporating the cycling into your daily life will help immensely, other than that, it needs to be making time.

One thing I've found which helps, is tracking myself. You said in November you did really well because you had a target, a goal. I've got myself a Garmin watch, which tracks pretty much everything for me, pulse, steps, cycling, running, plus I can put all of my meals in through MyFitnessPal, so it then compares calories burned with calories consumed, making it easy to see deficit/ surplus. In this way I am held to account on a daily basis. Even which I don't input my meals, I am much more conscious of what I'm eating. Today for example I haven't really tracked my eating, but I'm pretty sure to be at a 1000 calorie deficit, since I have around 2000 active calories burned.

The weight loss results will be 90% down to diet. It's not as simple as just creating a calorie deficit, since this can just create metabolic change, and kill your energy, cause slower metabolism, and can be dangerous (rob essential fat from around organs, deplete muscles, leach calcium). Only real solution to weight loss is a healthy, balanced diet, which whilst you're losing weight can be a little lower than your needs. The healthy balanced diet needs to be for life. Ideally exercise will include resistance/ strength training especially if you're out of shape, in order to improve core muscles (strength is a key long term health indicator).
 

Citius

Guest
So according to you there is only one body type. Bmi is utterly useless for many. The fact you quote it is telling. Anyone who has done any weight lifting will have massively skewed bmi.

For an 'awesome' climber such as yourself - there is only one body type. Lean, with no excess weight and with a high threshold and excellent w/kg. If you are an overweight, ex-bodybuilding midget, then your claims make you nothing more than a deluded wannabe.
 

blazed

220lb+
For an 'awesome' climber such as yourself - there is only one body type. Lean, with no excess weight and with a high threshold and excellent w/kg. If you are an overweight, ex-bodybuilding midget, then your claims make you nothing more than a deluded wannabe.
I'm neither overweight nor short, but an excellent climber. I cycle harder than a Spartans boner and as I've said before my massive watt output gives me an excellent watt/kg. Although wasn't you arguing in the other thread watt/kg is not important for climbing? Change of heart?
 

midlife

Guru
For an 'awesome' climber such as yourself - there is only one body type. Lean, with no excess weight and with a high threshold and excellent w/kg. If you are an overweight, ex-bodybuilding midget, then your claims make you nothing more than a deluded wannabe.

Muscular mesomorph :smile:

Shaun
 

Citius

Guest
Although wasn't you arguing in the other thread watt/kg is not important for climbing? Change of heart?

No, that wasn't me. If this was your first attempt at trolling, you would probably get 8/10 (deductions for poor grammar) - but as this is now getting very repetitive, I can only offer 1/10. Realistically, I think it's probably time for you to drop this as a topic and find a new subject with which to wind up the forum.

Anyway - still no news on your height? Ask a friend to measure you - although on second thoughts, that might be tricky for you...
 

midlife

Guru
No, that wasn't me. If this was your first attempt at trolling, you would probably get 8/10 (deductions for poor grammar) - but as this is now getting very repetitive, I can only offer 1/10. Realistically, I think it's probably time for you to drop this as a topic and find a new subject with which to wind up the forum.

Anyway - still no news on your height? Ask a friend to measure you - although on second thoughts, that might be tricky for you...

The tape measure hasnt been made yet that can take the job on.....

Apologies to Captain the Lord Flasheart :smile:

Shaun
 
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