Weight loss help

[vickster]

It's not a belief - it's a fact. Or maybe you're just denser than most people..?

Think you may be onto something there

 

[Smokin Joe]

Bonj rides again.

 

[Drago]

So according to you there is only one body type. Bmi is utterly useless for many. The fact you quote it is telling. Anyone who has done any weight lifting will have massively skewed bmi.

BMI should only be used for sedentary subjects, and even then it's of highly dubious medical value.

 

[vickster]

I think it would be hard to deny that young master blazed at 5'3 is overweight at 210lbs whether BMI is nonsense or not

 

[Fisheh]

For the OP , as already stated My fitness pal , it will calculate your BMR and do all the calculations for your calories. Link it to Strava and it will then give you an allowance for your exercise. As long as you are honest with inputting the correct calories you will loose weight. I lost my first 3 stone with it and you do it in a healthy way..
Good luck with loosing ....
For the other peeps here imho the only people that say bmi is rubbish are fat people just like the large framed and heavy boned people.....
When I used to body build people that fell outside of the bmi scale all looked like Arne and didn't care less about weight because they new exactly what they were doing. For the rest of us mere mortals the bmi scale and body fat is correct.....

 

[uclown2002]

A more relevant calculation is waist* to height ratio.
Should be less than 1:2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waist-to-height_ratio

* Actual measurement and not just your jeans size!

 

[Pale Rider]

A more relevant calculation is waist to height ratio.
Should be less than 1:2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waist-to-height_ratio

I wish I was taller.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

For the rest of us mere mortals the bmi scale and body fat is correct.....

It is not.

 

[Drago]

BMI is not correct for us mere mortals. The base datum was gathered in the 1940s when rationing was still going, and hasn't been comprehensively updated since. Even then, it was not intended for calculating the Lard Quotient of active people, only the sedentary. There is concerningly little science behind it, making it of little utility for either data gathering or for comparison purposes. The two quacks that popularised its use in the 1980s have a lot to answer for. In terms of gauging either health or fitness it's of little more scientific use than simply checking the subjects waist measurement is smaller than their chest.

 

[blazed]

No, that wasn't me. If this was your first attempt at trolling, you would probably get 8/10 (deductions for poor grammar) - but as this is now getting very repetitive, I can only offer 1/10. Realistically, I think it's probably time for you to drop this as a topic and find a new subject with which to wind up the forum.

Anyway - still no news on your height? Ask a friend to measure you - although on second thoughts, that might be tricky for you...

No trolling, just facts. A lot of people here can't handle the truth and scream trolling all the time.

I haven't told you my height as it is completely irrelevant, height/weight ratio has no part in telling whether someone is fat. But whatever, I'm a tad over 6ft, and not fat. Get your head around that.

 

[Citius]

No trolling, just facts. A lot of people here can't handle the truth and scream trolling all the time.

Not sure if you would recognise a fact, even if one fell on you, during your cross-fit class.

I haven't told you my height as it is completely irrelevant, height/weight ratio has no part in telling whether someone is fat. But whatever, I'm a tad over 6ft, and not fat. Get your head around that.

I don't think I ever said you were fat - but you at 6ft and 210lbs, you are significantly over-weight. For an 'awesome climber' you are massively over-weight. You sound like an over-confident gym-rat who thinks muscle bulk equates to cycling performance. I saw a lot of people like you in the 90s and in all honestly, I thought you had all died out.

Let's try another tack - what's your FTP?

 

[blazed]

Not sure if you would recognise a fact, even if one fell on you, during your cross-fit class.



I don't think I ever said you were fat - but you at 6ft and 210lbs, you are significantly over-weight. For an 'awesome climber' you are massively over-weight. You sound like an over-confident gym-rat who thinks muscle bulk equates to cycling performance. I saw a lot of people like you in the 90s and in all honestly, I thought you had all died out.

Let's try another tack - what's your FTP?

So you are not calling me fat but I am 'significantly overweight', how so?

I thought your cluelessness was purely cycling related but are proving it is all things fitness related.

What would you say about track cyclists, their bmi would have them as obese. Most track sprinters would destroy typical scrawny climbers on most UK climbs. The majority of uk climbs are short and huge watt output that the scrawny climber is not capable of wins.

 

[Citius]

So you are not calling me fat but I am 'significantly overweight', how so?

Because Wiggins (6'3") was around 70kg at his climbing best. You, apparently, are 25kg heavier and maybe slightly shorter. To be an 'awesome climber' capable of beating Wiggins (which you claimed in an earlier thread), you would need an FTP of well over 500w - which puts you firmly in the 'undiscovered super-talent' category which the likes of BC Academy and most of the world's pro squads spend a lot of time looking for.

What would you say about track cyclists, their bmi would have them as obese

I'm not concerned with BMI - only power and weight. Track cyclists come in many sizes, according to their discipline, as you may or (by the sound of it) may not know.

Most track sprinters would destroy typical scrawny climbers on most UK climbs.

You are confusing power with power/weight. Sprinters and team sprinters train to deliver maximal power for short duration - and in doing so they develop a powerful physique, which is not suited to climbing, any more than Linford Christie's physique was suited to marathon running. If the climb was not too steep and less than 30 seconds in duration, then maybe. Otherwise, it's very unlikely.

The majority of uk climbs are short and huge watt output that the scrawny climber is not capable of wins.

Ignorant nonsense. Nothing else to say about that. Other than that statement clearly demonstrates that you do not understand how power is made.

 

[blazed]

Because Wiggins (6'3") was around 70kg at his climbing best. You, apparently, are 25kg heavier and maybe slightly shorter. To be an 'awesome climber' capable of beating Wiggins (which you claimed in an earlier thread), you would need an FTP of well over 500w - which puts you firmly in the 'undiscovered super-talent' category which the likes of BC Academy and most of the world's pro squads spend a lot of time looking for.



I'm not concerned with BMI - only power and weight. Track cyclists come in many sizes, according to their discipline, as you may or (by the sound of it) may not know.



You are confusing power with power/weight. Sprinters and team sprinters train to deliver maximal power for short duration - and in doing so they develop a powerful physique, which is not suited to climbing, any more than Linford Christie's physique was suited to marathon running. If the climb was not too steep and less than 30 seconds in duration, then maybe. Otherwise, it's very unlikely.



Ignorant nonsense. Nothing else to say about that. Other than that statement clearly demonstrates that you do not understand how power is made.

You said I am significantly overweight in general, regardless of cycling. Or 'massively overweight' for a cyclist.

You have mentioned bmi numerous times in the thread so yes you are concerned with bmi. You said my bmi makes me bordering obese, as it would a track sprinter. Are they significantly overweight as well?

You like to pull people up on things but never supply answers yourself, just nonsense.

The fact is, I am not fat neither am I overweight, not in general not for my cycling style. I ride short, intense fast efforts. I also climb quicker than the vast majority of cyclists including the twiglets.

 

[midlife]

Gareth Armitage ..... Scrawny bloke on a bike.

Hill climbing champion from my era 1977 iirc



Shaun