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wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
My struggle has been not losing too much muscle mass, which is a danger with rapid lead loss. 6 days a week of, light wights, high reps, protein shakes and lots of chicken and ride seem to be doing me ok.

I've dropped 52lbs since early March, quite an aggressive loss fuelled by a sighificant daily calorie deficit. While I've gone down two waist sizes my chest and guns have maintained. Not bad for 58.
Great work - that's a massive loss and especially impressive if you've manage to retain muscle mass!

This is something I'm currently trying to get my head around.. would welcome your thoughts on the stuff below if you have any :smile:


I think that my diet is almost certainly significantly lacking in protein. I am going to calculate how much I am currently getting, how much more I need, and where to get it from. I have been pescatarian for over 40 years so it is not going to be from meat, but some of it could come from despatching more innocent fish!
Nice work on the diet - in principle I'd love to be veggie / vegan, however unfortunately my diet is restrictive enough for many reasons (typically minimising carbs and the many allergens I'm susceptible to) as it is and cutting out mean would leave me with next to nothing.

I suspect it's hard getting enough protein from non-meat sources...


So, today's enthralling update.. Down c. 1.1kg on the seven-day mean compared to last Sunday; waist and chest both down 0.9cm, hips 0.2cm...

This is encouraging but hardly surprising since last week involved two days of fasting and low-carb for the rest of it.

I intend to keep the low-carb going and fast when I can, however I suspect a good chunk of this week's loss is transient water weight so I don't expect the trend to continue at the same rate - historically I've managed about 0.5kg/wk so if I can hit that I'll be happy (well perhaps less overly miserable).

While a pain in many ways you've got to love low carb - the weight falling off despite my diet consisting largely of high-fat food that most wouldn't associate with weight loss - sausages, burgers, eggs, cheese, coleslaw... albeit in relatively modest total quantities (large, infrequent meals) and supplemented with some less triggering foods - mushrooms, onion, salad, pickles, nuts, berries and plain Greek yoghurt.

This of course is the beauty of low carb as I feel much less compelled to eat, while in the absence of the massive dopamine hit that comes from carbs everything else tastes so much better.


I've also been comparing my weight and body measurements with past efforts, with varying results.

Compared to this time-ish last year for the same weight my waist is 0.5cm larger (which presumably isn't great) and my chest 1.5cm smaller.. the latter arguably open to more speculation since I'm obviously carrying too much fat in this area and the loss could be due to loss of either fat or muscle.

On the one hand it would seem strange to suddenly lose a load of fat at the chest while gaining at the waist; on the other I've read that lack of sleep (as I've suffered chronically for the past year-ish) can lead to fat concentration at the waist. It is entirely likely that I've lost some muscle as I'm doing less on the rings than I was (I don't seem to have had the energy to do as many sets after injury / illness later last year) however am still hitting them regularly so would have hoped that this would have allowed maintenance if not outright growth.

On top of this the numbers compared come from snapshots during times of fair shifts in weight and body measurements, so are probably somewhat noisy and I suspect I'll get a better picture if I do more regular comparisons.

One thing that's heartening is the comparison to myself during the big Covid weight loss - whereby for a similar weight my waist is now around 4cm smaller, my chest about 1.5cm less and hip about 1.3cm down; or for a similar waist size my mass is around 2.5kg more - suggesting more muscle :smile:

In 2020 I got down to a minimum of about 67-68kg; which based upon the above would be comparable (in body fat terms) of around 70kg this time around. Looking at it another way if I can get down to 68kg again I should be leaner than I was last time.

While my head continues to be all over the place I currently feel good about the weight situation - once more it feels like a switch has been flipped; the process feels manageable and sustainable (at least in the immediate term), goals seem achievable and the reward of seeing my weight and waist consistently trending down are sufficient motivation to keep at it :becool:
 
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Drago

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The Urban Fringe
Resistance exercise, and a protein source compatible with your eating ethos. Sadly I can't advise on the latter beyondmprotein shake (which I love, so have 2 a day.)

228 dead this morning. The rate of loss has slowed right down now, but thats fine - I've shed nearly 4 stones and I'm only half a stone from target, so stuck with it and be patient is all I can do.
 
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Widnes
Resistance exercise, and a protein source compatible with your eating ethos. Sadly I can't advise on the latter beyondmprotein shake (which I love, so have 2 a day.)

228 dead this morning. The rate of loss has slowed right down now, but thats fine - I've shed nearly 4 stones and I'm only half a stone from target, so stuck with it and be patient is all I can do.

From people I have seen - patience and consistence is the key

the fad "quick" diets regimes are rubbish and normally result is rapid weight gain right after

your body needs a long term slowish reduction and then maintaining it for an extended period

You are basically teaching your system what normal is now
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Resistance exercise, and a protein source compatible with your eating ethos. Sadly I can't advise on the latter beyondmprotein shake (which I love, so have 2 a day.)

228 dead this morning. The rate of loss has slowed right down now, but thats fine - I've shed nearly 4 stones and I'm only half a stone from target, so stuck with it and be patient is all I can do.

Thanks - sounds sensible. The diet currently contains a fair bit of protein since I'm trying to bin off the carbs, although this is mostly in the form of meat so brings its own baggage.

Cracking work with the weight loss :becool:
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
The occasional Sunday update..

Things continue to go OK; the hot, otherwise pleasant weather making it easy to stay on top of my diet within limits.

Over-ate a bit earlier in the week but countered that with a 36ish hr fast over Thursday.

Compared to last week seven-day averages are currently:

Mass: 71.9kg down from 72.7kg
Waist: 90.1cm down from 90.8cm
Chest: 97.6cm down from 97.7cm
Hips: 93.4cm down from 93.7cm

Unfortunately the waist / weight discrepancy with last year appears consistent - i.e. I'm about 1kg heavier for the same waist size, or 1cm fatter for the same weight - suggesting I've lost some muscle since last year. Chest is suspiciously down too; so maybe this is where it's been lost from (or being optimistic maybe for some reason I've lost more fat from this area this time).

That aside I'm pleased to have dipped below 72kg as this was about where I managed to get to (or at least maintain for a while) last time, although I've got another cm or so to drop on the waist before I surpass last year's minimum, so this is another goal to aim for.

In terms of comparison to last year, on mass at least I'm a couple of weeks ahead and didn't start the diet until later in the year, so perhaps I can carry it on a bit later into the year this time; although this is largely dictated by the weather...
 
Since the start of the year I am down from 184lb to 152lb of which 10lb was due to been ill and not eating properly, pretty happy with a 32lb loss so far.

I have still got another 10lb ish to loss until I am happy but as the aim is to gain muscle definition and lose bodyfat I don’t mind too much if this doesn’t come off or the rate of loss slows right down, possibly even stalls.
I’ll still be accepting as long as I see changes in my body and regularly hit my macros.

Project abs 2026 continues.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
I will weigh into the thread as a motivation to keep me on track.

At uni I had a fighting weight (literally - I did Judo) of 11 1/4 st. Through my 40's I had a usual settled weight of 12 1/4 st, dipping briefly to 12 in 2015 when I did a lot of training for a big bike multi day ride. Eating sensible diet, exercise - cycling and hockey in the main, booze only at the weekend sort of maintained that, but as I got into 50's my settle weight has nudged up to 12 1/2, then 12 3/4 and just after a week in the Algarve hit a smidge shy of 13. Cycling 100miles around the Brecon Beacons made me realise, it would be easier being nearer to 12st than 13.

Mrs T has seen the same slight upward creep, despite exercising like a demon, so we're now a week into a new regime.

Low carbs, no complex carbs at all, no added sugars or processed food, high protein, high-ish fat, but no dairy. 2 meals per day lunch and dinner so you get a 16-18 hour "fast". The idea is to get your body into fat burning mode and avoid spiking your insulin which then make you feel hungry. I should have given up alcohol (Mrs T rarely drinks now anyway as suffers from crap hangovers post menopause) but I haven't.

I've lots 6lbs in a week and she has lost 9lb (from a lower base than me). I lost those 6 in first 4 days, and then plateaued, but that did coincide with a work summer party and a friends anniversary party so had quite a few naughty beer carbs. Hopefully back on it now the midweek has arrived.

I used to have a decent breakfast (granola - which is stashed with sugar, or shredded wheat or porridge) and then a slice of toast & marmite mid morning. I don't really feel hungry now despite not eating anything until gone noon.

Dinner hasn't really changed much, its a hunk of protein and salad or veg. Similar to before just minus the carb source. Lunch has changed: hello omelettes and scrambled egg etc, goodbye daily sandwich, so my bread count is well down.

I cycled at the weekend effectively fasted - only ~30 miles, but didn't feel like I was about to fade. I reckon for a longer ride or more exertion I'd need to fuel a little bit of carb before / en route. I think you can fat burn fuel effectively in zone 2 riding but higher exertion really needs to burn carbs.
 

Drago

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Location
The Urban Fringe
227 dead now. A good solid Forest Gump and I'll be in the 226's.
 
@T4tomo just be cautious of under eating.

I found that the best bang for your buck, is to eat things like chicken which is high protein, low carbs and white fish and supplement it with things like Greek yoghurt (not Greek style), carrots and broccoli.

You can have more volume of food for the same number of calorific intake so you feel fuller for longer, hit your macros (if that’s your thing), and lose weight consistently over a number of weeks/months without burning out.
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Struggling to control an "appetite" driven by tiredness and reward-seeking today; feeling physically full after a big salad for lunch (and too much food yesterday) but still want to eat... :sad:
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
A protein shake of a handful of unsalted peanuts helps me with the pangs.

Thanks - the problem is I really don't need to eat. Body is saying no, dysfunctional brain is saying yes.

In my case the key lies in telling dysfunctional brain to feck off :tongue:
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Location
The Urban Fringe
Its exactly the same for me Wafty. For the most part my brain has been recalibrated, but sometimes I do find myself pacing up and down looking for food. Fortunately we simply dont buy the junk any more, and I cant eat what isnt there.

Home made ice lollies are also an inexpensive means of fooling your brain.
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Its exactly the same for me Wafty. For the most part my brain has been recalibrated, but sometimes I do find myself pacing up and down looking for food. Fortunately we simply dont buy the junk any more, and I cant eat what isnt there.

Home made ice lollies are also an inexpensive means of fooling your brain.

Yup; I think it usually stems from boredom / anxiety / depression / tiredness / lack of reward elsewhere (if I'm not cycling / exercising enough for example).

I'm the same with crap in the house; I suppose binging on decent food's better than binging on rubbish. Amongst many other victims the carrots and hummus took some punishment yesterday :tongue:

Good call on the lollies - although I think I'd need to be wary of the sugar..
 
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