Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
We get everything last, and sometimes not even then...
Theres' a thing on telly right now about the winter of 1963- frozen seas and pack ice in ports and 20' snow drifts etc. Makes this current cold snap look tropical. Hereabouts -we have only had a light dusting- I went out to measure the depth yesterday and it didn't even reach the 0 inch line on my ruler! Pathetic!
You're deliberately misinterpreting me, as you usually do when someone disagrees with you. Think what you wish LYB, I won't argue with you or attempt a rational debate as it's a pointless exercise.
not risk shifting , teachers are paid to teach not clear snow and ice . if a child falls over on untreated school grounds the school has failed in their duty of care to that child. if a teacher fell over on untreated grounds the school have failed in their duty of care .Risk shifting....
Nothing to do with staff ratios , or how many staff can get there, simple risk shifting, if the pupils are going to get hurt in snow and ice , just make sure it's done somewhere else....
http://www.bridgend.gov.uk/schools/status.php
Caerau Primary
Closeddue to large amounts of uncleared snow and ice in the school grounds creating a significnt health and safety issue.
Ogmore Vale Primary
Closedto ensure the safety of pupils due to large amounts of snow and ice in the school grounds.
Tynyrheol Primary
ClosedClosed for pupils due to ice around school creating major health and safety issue
St Mary's & St Patrick's Primary
Closedto ensure the safety of pupils the school will be closed due to the amount of snow + ice in its grounds.
I'm old enough to remember the winter of 1963, I was about 11, my family lived on the Kent coast. It started snowing on Boxing Day and the snow lasted until early March, I was woken up most mornings by the sound of my Dad clearing our front path before he went to work. I remember going out with my sledge, there were hills behind the town, and on the little lane I used the snow was that deep the cars parked on the lane were buried up to roof height.
Although in other forms of employment the onus is on the employee to get to work on time, not so in education where employees don't seem to feel they have this responsibility.Many years ago if there was snow, teachers would report to local school. Caretakers don't live on site in a school house anymore. if they cant get there then ice don't get shifted
That's right, and we had to be in early when there was snow to clear the school playground with our shovels before the bell rang at nine, and on our backs a rucksack full of coal (logs if you were poor) to keep the class room fire burning all day.Me too - 1963 was epic. IIRC the school never closed and I learned to slide down a very long steep hill whilst standing. No need for poncey skis
If the child/teacher falls over outside the school ( quite likely as the school hasn't it's own climate) , and is out of school because the school is closed then the LEA is not liable. The risk is the same, it's just been moved off the school premises. OMD Off My Desk....not risk shifting , teachers are paid to teach not clear snow and ice . if a child falls over on untreated school grounds the school has failed in their duty of care to that child. if a teacher fell over on untreated grounds the school have failed in their duty of care .
not risk shifting its applying control measures. hierarchy of control is Eliminate Substitute Isolate Reduce.
Many years ago if there was snow, teachers would report to local school. Caretakers don't live on site in a school house anymore. if they cant get there then ice don't get shifted
Caretakers don't live on site in a school house anymore. if they cant get there then ice don't get shifted
all the ones in Newham got sold off , and in Waltham Forest. so i shall quantify it Not all caretakers.Yes they do.
My brother is a school caretaker. He lives in his schools ground in Woking and also lived in his previous schools grounds in Raynes Park.
If the child/teacher falls over outside the school ( quite likely as the school hasn't it's own climate) , and is out of school because the school is closed then the LEA is not liable. The risk is the same, it's just been moved off the school premises. OMD Off My Desk....
That's the year that I moved to Coventry. I remember a couple of times that winter when the snowdrifts at the end of the road were about 8 feet deep!I'm old enough to remember the winter of 1963, I was about 11, my family lived on the Kent coast. It started snowing on Boxing Day and the snow lasted until early March, I was woken up most mornings by the sound of my Dad clearing our front path before he went to work. I remember going out with my sledge, there were hills behind the town, and on the little lane I used the snow was that deep the cars parked on the lane were buried up to roof height.