Wigsie said:
For those amongst us that dont have cars (and are old enough to drive) like Longers and ColinJ.......
I am curious what your situations are; are you single? do you live in major cities? what jobs do you do? do you rely on bike and public transport etc
Promise I am not intending on stalking you


, I just want to understand how you can get by without using a tin box at least a few times a week/month.
Okay, that's a fair question...
Family
I am single, but when I wasn't, my later-to-be-ex didn't drive either. She has a daughter who walked and caught the bus to school. She used to walk to friends' houses. Day trips were by bus and/or train. There was no 'school run' for us. When step-sprog was young, her mum started university (travelling by train). I used to walk down to the school to meet her. I changed my working hours to be able to do that.
I walked to school as a child or travelled by bus and I can't see why children shouldn't do it now.
Shopping
I live in Hebden Bridge which is a small town (it's about a 10-15 minute walk from one side to the other). It has a decent selection of shops for everyday goods and food, so I walk to the shops and the local market. I usually buy bigger or more unusual items online and have them delivered. I don't need to drive to go shopping.
Travel
To go abroad, I use Manchester airport or I could use Leeds/Bradford. I've gone to the airports by bus, train, in somebody else's car and by taxi. I haven't needed to drive to get to an airport.
I travel by train to visit family in the midlands. Hebden Bridge station is less than 10 minutes walk from here and has direct rail links to Leeds, Manchester and Preston, with connections from those stations to the rest of the UK. I don't need to drive to get anywhere.
We had one holiday in the hamlet of Keld in the Yorkshire Dales. We caught a train to Kirkby Stephen and a taxi from there to Keld. While we were there, we walked to the Tan Hill Tavern for a pub lunch with step-sprog and her school-mate. That's about an 8 mile round trip with about 700 ft of ascent. It was snowing. The kids were 9 or 10 and they loved it. Another time, we walked to Muker, home of the only shop for miles around. We loaded up with food supplies and walked back to our caravan. We'd gone out over the hills, but it started snowing again so we decided to walk back on the road.
No car needed.
Work
I went to university in Manchester (I walked 35-40 miles a week getting to the university and back to my flat). When I was about to graduate, I spotted an ad for a job in Hebden Bridge. I got the job, so I moved here.
The day after I started work, it was announced that we'd been bought out by a company in Burnley (15 miles away). So much for walking to work...

For the first 'transition' year, the company laid on a coach to take us to work. When that service stopped, I used the train and walked to and from the stations. Eventually, somebody from Hebden Bridge offered me a lift and we split the petrol costs.
In the summer, I'd sometimes commute by bike.
Nowadays, I'm trying to earn a living online. I can do that anywhere that I have mains power and a decent internet connection.
I don't need a car to get to work.
Leisure
I don't go around looking at historical ruins or museums. I don't go to concerts. I don't like going to big cities, so I tend not to. My main leisure activity is cycling so I'm travelling by bike.
From time to time, I like to cycle away from this area. I've had lifts with my bike to other places. I've flown my bike to Spain. I've taken my bike on the train. I posted a bike to Cornwall for a holiday last year and travelled down on the train.
There have been just a few occasions when I wanted to drive. The most notable time was when I left my Christmas shopping until midday on Christmas Eve. I caught a bus to Halifax and wandered round the shops. Eventually, I ended up carrying a 14" colour TV, a large whiteboard and a host of other stuff. Then the blizzard started... I couldn't find an available taxi and some buses were cancelled. Standing shivering, with backache, and wondering if I'd ever get home wasn't nice. But I don't need a car to avoid that feeling - I just need to get organised and not shop on Christmas Eve (I'd do it online now anyway).
99% of all humans who ever lived never had cars and they seemed to manage okay. If all adults in the world were to get cars, think what a nightmare it would be! Even if the ultimate solar-powered 'green' electric car was developed, you'd still need to cover half the world's surface in roads and carparks. Ultimately we need to have a different way of getting about. How about bikes?
