Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
We're apparently getting ID7 Tourers as our next company cars. Supposed to be very comfortable
Which EV would you get?
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midlandsgrimpeur
Senior Member
Test drove an e-208. They are very nice cars to drive. What put me off was reading that they are a nightmare to repair and extremely expensive if something goes wrong with the battery.
Cletus Van Damme
Previously known as Cheesney Hawks
- Location
- Out in the sticks...
Wouldn't get a Hyundai Ioniq 5 if this guy is right, watch a lot of his stuff and he appears to be really genuine. Personally wouldn't be very happy if I leased a car as expensive as this and I had to make sure kids didn't spill anything major. It's possibly not true, makes you wonder what happens to these things when they come out of lease. Still if you lease from new it's possibly not an issue, unless they blame you for negligence or something.
Daninplymouth
Über Member
Just to throw in the byd dolphin surf the little car is available on 0% interest and 0 deposit. It’s just had a price drop so can get the mid range model for £189 a month seems a pretty good deal for a brand new car
Regular.Cyclist
Über Member
- Location
- South West Scotland 🏴
I’m currently considering an EV and, du to where I’m planning to move to, all wheel drive is a must. Apparently in EV world that means dual motor. I don’t need something big s the Volvo EX30 has caught my attention but the acceleration on it makes me think it needs a gentle foot on the accelerator. Anyone driven one in ecco mode?
figbat
Former slippery scientist
- Location
- South Oxfordshire, UK
I drove the single motor one and honestly it only went fast if you provoked it. Under ‘normal’ driving conditions it was perfectly calm. Only if I deliberately set out to test the acceleration did it take off like a scalded cat. I know the dual motor is even quicker but I’d imagine the same would be true.
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
- Location
- 52 Festive Road
AWD is useful if you also change the tyres. The former is much much less useful if the latter is not done.
Source: our MX 5 on winters in 2010 when compared with any number of stranded 4x4s. And, I expect, our i3 on winters in 2025.
Perhaps, but that's only one facet and they potentially address a lot of issues that affect BEVs such as range, cost of battery replacement and likely mass too.
Plus it appears that the core reason given for that reduced efficiency is because owners fail to charge them and rely excessively on the IC engine; so that's hardly surprising. I doubt you'd get claimed fuel economy figures from a traditional vehicle if you drove everywhere in first gear....
That said you can still use electric assistance to improve efficiency of IC cars without resorting to external charging; allowing the vehicle to operate with the most appropriate part of the powertrain depeding on circumstances - the Toyota Prius and Honda CR-Z being two examples.
Interestingly when I last looked these vehicles were not only lasting far longer than a lot of BEVs are slated to, but are also retaining their value far, far better as well.
I think the savage depreciation affecting a lot of BEVs is telling, can see enormous amounts of them being written off after relatively short lives and fully expect this to pan out like the government's drive towards Diesels - which if you remember was also up-sold on environmental grounds before ultimately being debunked and the vehicles vilified for the pollution they create.
Other than cutting energy useage there appears to be no magic bullet for our unsustainable transport habits and I'm yet to be convinced that the current establishment drive towards EVs is anything more than a cynical politically-motivated exercise.
I've no idea what you mean - what are the motives of politicians here that you refer to?
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
We need more cars like this - not more 5/6/700 + hp monsters.
As previously posted -
a) Being seen to be doing something positive to resolve the increasingly obvious and severe issue of consumption-driven waste and environmental damage
b) To disingenuously exploit the otherwise legitimate environmental argument to further drive consumption and prop up a dying economy that's predicated on unsustainable consumption in order to court public favour
No political party would ever be voted into power if their manifesto contained the measures actually necessary to slow / halt our acceleration towards consuming ourselves to death; so instead they paper over the cracks to save their own skin, keep the plates spinning and kick the can down the road to make it somebody else's problem.
It's like telling an alcoholic to stop drinking and switch to smack - neither resolves the core issue and instead just swaps one set of problems for the novely of another.
ktmbiker58
Senior Member
Having had an EV in the family fleet for 3 years I would present a few points for consideration:
First - be under no illusion - the UK charging infrastructure is not only very expensive but also unreliable, if your journeys are such that you can always charge at home then it's a not an issue - if you have to charge on a motorway be prepared for a long wait.
Second - you are driving around in a vehicle with the equivalent of a 3 or 4 gallon fuel tank, getting stuck in a traffic jam in the winter watching the range evaporate trying to keep the windscreen demisted (and the family away from hypothermia) or having to follow an unplanned diversion when you might have the equivalent of less than a gallon in the tank is very stressful.
Third - EVs depreciate at an eyewatering rate so much so that most garages other than EV specialists won't take them in part exchange - true story a guy spent £70k on a Tesla - he got fed up with it after 9 months and went to a dealer to trade it in for a hybrid - he lost £30k in 9 months and the dealer had to get approval from head office to take it.
If you really want one buy a Chinese brand - all the major parts come from China anyway and they are the best value. BYD has it's own blade battery technology that is ahead of the others. BYD outsells Tesla in Europe now. The Chinese are anxious to build a good reputation so service is usually very good.
First - be under no illusion - the UK charging infrastructure is not only very expensive but also unreliable, if your journeys are such that you can always charge at home then it's a not an issue - if you have to charge on a motorway be prepared for a long wait.
Second - you are driving around in a vehicle with the equivalent of a 3 or 4 gallon fuel tank, getting stuck in a traffic jam in the winter watching the range evaporate trying to keep the windscreen demisted (and the family away from hypothermia) or having to follow an unplanned diversion when you might have the equivalent of less than a gallon in the tank is very stressful.
Third - EVs depreciate at an eyewatering rate so much so that most garages other than EV specialists won't take them in part exchange - true story a guy spent £70k on a Tesla - he got fed up with it after 9 months and went to a dealer to trade it in for a hybrid - he lost £30k in 9 months and the dealer had to get approval from head office to take it.
If you really want one buy a Chinese brand - all the major parts come from China anyway and they are the best value. BYD has it's own blade battery technology that is ahead of the others. BYD outsells Tesla in Europe now. The Chinese are anxious to build a good reputation so service is usually very good.
Sorry but anyone paying cash for a new electric car is completely nuts, new cars are not an asset, they depreciate like a stone so leasing is definitely the best option, you are paying a fixed monthly cost and really just paying for the depreciation over a fixed term.
I have only ever bought one new car for cash and that was a Golf GTi 25 years ago, needless to say over three years I ended up losing a lot of money on it. Only car I would buy outright would be a three your old used car which has already shed its major depreciation.
My EV recommendation would be a CUPRA Born or ID.3 all the electric car you’ll ever need. Ours is brilliant! BTW it’s leased!
