Which fuel bottles fit bottle carriers?

[oxford_guy]

Hi - am thinking of getting an Optimus Nova+ mutli (liquid) fuel stove to supplement my Trangia for longer trips (which on short trips I've mostly used with the gas adapter), partly because it can be adapted to fit the Trangia base. I was wondering, though, which fuel bottles would fit in a standard bottle carrier - does anyone know if the 0.6L Optimus fuel bottle (http://www.optimus.se/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=42)?would fit?

Alternatively, are there any liquid fuel bottles designed specifically for bike bottle cages? Thanks!

 

[vernon]

Hi - am thinking of getting an Optimus Nova+ mutli (liquid) fuel stove to supplement my Trangia for longer trips (which on short trips I've mostly used with the gas adapter), partly because it can be adapted to fit the Trangia base. I was wondering, though, which fuel bottles would fit in a standard bottle carrier - does anyone know if the 0.6L Optimus fuel bottle (http://www.optimus.se/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=42)?would fit?

Alternatively, are there any liquid fuel bottles designed specifically for bike bottle cages? Thanks!

I keep my fuel bottle(s) in my panniers.

Beware. Make sure that the fuel bottle can cope with meths. I have been using an aluminium fuel bottle and wondering what the sludge was in it....meths corrodes aluminium. I now use a Trangia polythene bottle.

Why do you think you need a second stove for longer trips?

My Trangia has served me well on two and three week tours.

 

[numbnuts]

http://www.bikebuddy.co.uk/

 

[oxford_guy]

I keep my fuel bottle(s) in my panniers.

Beware. Make sure that the fuel bottle can cope with meths. I have been using an aluminium fuel bottle and wondering what the sludge was in it....meths corrodes aluminium. I now use a Trangia polythene bottle.

Why do you think you need a second stove for longer trips?

Carrying and disposing of lots of gas canisters does not appeal, also outside of Europe / North America, gas is not so easier to get hold of. On the other hand, gas is far less fiddly to use...

 

[oxford_guy]

My Trangia has served me well on two and three week tours.

BTW how many gas canisters (I use the larger of two spin-on types) do you typically go through on a 2-week tour? Thanks

 

[andym]

BTW how many gas canisters (I use the larger of two spin-on types) do you typically go through on a 2-week tour? Thanks

It's a bit of a 'how long is a piece of string question?'. If you're just using it to heat water for coffee/heating up soup etc then a small 100g cylinder would last for two weeks easily (though that's not what I'd recommend carrying). If you're doing a lot of simmering then it's going to have a shorter life.

It's worth thinking about a Markill adapter so you can use Camping Gaz cylinders. (Though carrying a meths stove as a second cooker/backup probably makes this a bit OTT).

It's worth thinking about a pot cozy - bring the (say) water and pasta to the boil and then put it into the cozy and leave to cook.

http://www.winwood-outdoor.co.uk/acatalog/Ultralight_Cooking.html

 

[vernon]

BTW how many gas canisters (I use the larger of two spin-on types) do you typically go through on a 2-week tour? Thanks

I don't use gas so can not answer. I have used the 270 sized cannisters in the past and I think one would last a week at least.

Duration depends upon use.

I use a litre and a half of meths on a two week tour. I like several brew ups plus porridge on a morning before leaving the camp site plus the occasional brew uopduring the day plus evening meeal cooking and final brew before bed time. I have a one litre meths bottle now which, ehrn combined with a fully topped up burner would necessitate just one 500ml purchase on a LEJOG ride.

I used to use a 750ml and a 500ml pair of aluminium containers before discovering the corrosion problem with aluminium.

 

[Tim Bennet.]

Sigg meths bottles are coated on the inside. Just like the drinking bottles. I have had the same one with meths in it since 1977.

Just don't use the ones intended for paraffin or petrol.

 

[Riding in Circles]

I use Sigg meth bottles, my Trangia is my most essential luxury. I would not be without it when touring, I even have the kettle for a real cup of tea.

 

[vernon]

Sigg meths bottles are coated on the inside. Just like the drinking bottles. I have had the same one with meths in it since 1977.

Just don't use the ones intended for paraffin or petrol.

I was in ignorance of this when I had a couple of bottles given to me. Having said that the bottles are still intact four years later but I'm uncertain about the degree of internal corrosion.

 

[tapan]

I travelled for ages using a small camping gaz stove

--one of the piercing type, The idea was to carry 1 spare cyclinder and then but a new one when the empty one was replaced. But because of the problems of going through areas where the cyclinders were not available I found myself carry at least 2 spare! i would always knock over the pot at least once on a tour!

So I changed to the Trangia for my tour in 2006 from Nemours to Narbonne, actually it was an inexpensive LIDL copy ( bought a genuine Trangia burner to compare but it behaves the same).

On long tours, cooking a full meal in the evening from fresh I have used a total of about 1 1/2 litres of "alcool a brulée" on each trip and travelled witht he knowledge that i can buy "meths" everywhere.

On an evening , once set up, I would do my veg prep and get all into the pot and get it up to the boil. Then the simple readjust of the flame to a simmer and off to the showers and evening wander. It was handy having 2 burners when 1 wasn't quite enough but most times one filling was enough to cook my main meal

t might be less useful if there are 2 of you travelling together but as a solo tourist I shall not change from the spirit heated Trangia style stove!

I had "moules provencal" cooked from fresh on my 71st birthday in Ambois last year!

 

[oxford_guy]

It's a bit of a 'how long is a piece of string question?'. If you're just using it to heat water for coffee/heating up soup etc then a small 100g cylinder would last for two weeks easily (though that's not what I'd recommend carrying). If you're doing a lot of simmering then it's going to have a shorter life.

It's worth thinking about a Markill adapter so you can use Camping Gaz cylinders.

There seems to be two adapters available - a small one for Camping Gaz spin-on cylinders (http://www.actionoutdoors.co.uk/sho....html?osCsid=cded01912aa8aefa2a56f36bd0f09820 ) and a larger one for the cylinders you pierce (http://www.actionoutdoors.co.uk/shop/markill-puncturestyle-cartridge-adaptor-p-881.html ) - the latter looks quite bulky, but I think in places like France, the pierce-able canisters are more common. Am not entirely sure whether the I would need both adaptors or not...

(Though carrying a meths stove as a second cooker/backup probably makes this a bit OTT).

It's worth thinking about a pot cozy - bring the (say) water and pasta to the boil and then put it into the cozy and leave to cook.

http://www.winwood-outdoor.co.uk/acatalog/Ultralight_Cooking.html

Thanks, will look into this

 

[Riding in Circles]

I had "moules provencal" cooked from fresh on my 71st birthday in Ambois last year!

71st birthday? Respect.

 

[andym]

There seems to be two adapters available - a small one for Camping Gaz spin-on cylinders (http://www.actionoutdoors.co.uk/sho....html?osCsid=cded01912aa8aefa2a56f36bd0f09820 ) and a larger one for the cylinders you pierce (http://www.actionoutdoors.co.uk/shop/markill-puncturestyle-cartridge-adaptor-p-881.html ) - the latter looks quite bulky, but I think in places like France, the pierce-able canisters are more common. Am not entirely sure whether the I would need both adaptors or not...

I just bought the one for screw-on cartridges - figuring that if I found a Camping Gaz seller they would probably stock both types. But if you're carrying an alcohol stove then you've got belt, braces and (hypothetical third way of keeping trousers up).

 

[BigonaBianchi]

..I just use a normal water bottle..I drew a skull and crossbones and a message on it. "drink me , die happy"