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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

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Crashbang would connect fine sometimes and not others. I'm using a wired router. Actually, it would usually connect but it wouldn't download much data. I suspect it might have been getting confused with all the wireless routers around here. Also I was having a problem sending e-mails from the Claws application. Again it sometimes worked and sometimes didn't. I'm pretty sure the smtp server address was typed in correctly. I logged onto the Crunchbang forum and posted a message, but when I tried logging in again, I couldn't find it.
 

nigelb

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To my mind, Redhat is hard work, Debian is solid, and Ubuntu is great if you need to support very new hardware. I was impressed by the way Ubuntu sorted out the wifi on a laptop, integrated the connection fine, graphics was cool, just mostly worked (audio was a bit of a pain).

For commercial stuff, Debian is my preference - when you want a solid, stable system that you can depend on, its perfect. Apt is very easy to use, and you can also control what patches it will use if required (so we grab new patches, try them on a DEV box, if they're ok deploy them on UAT - user acceptance testing - and if that passes then to live, means we know exactly which box has what revision, and can recreate it, and previous ones too). Downside of apt is its so easy to do - apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade. You'll now be running the lastest and greatest release of stable/testing/unstable, but if you find something really important doesn't now work for you, there is no easy way back :-(

Other aspect is support - Debian support tends to be fairly hard core. If you've identified a bug, they'll help you explore it, work round it, and prob issue a fix. Go on with a numpty question and they'll tend to eat you alive. Ubuntu suffers the other way, the assumption is the problem is finger trouble, managing to find anyone who can actually help you fix a real problem is not easy when you're bombarded by "have you tried logging out and logging in again, worked for me" etc.

Hang on, I'm on holiday today, don't need to talk work - off for a ride :-)

Nige
 

Carwash

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nigelb said:
For commercial stuff, Debian is my preference - when you want a solid, stable system that you can depend on, its perfect. Apt is very easy to use, and you can also control what patches it will use if required (so we grab new patches, try them on a DEV box, if they're ok deploy them on UAT - user acceptance testing - and if that passes then to live, means we know exactly which box has what revision, and can recreate it, and previous ones too). Downside of apt is its so easy to do - apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade. You'll now be running the lastest and greatest release of stable/testing/unstable, but if you find something really important doesn't now work for you, there is no easy way back :-(

I use Debian on our servers at work, and agree with everything you've said! I'd add though that the trade-off for Debian being stable and reliable is that the packages available through apt are usually not latest versions; if you need the latest releases, you'll have to compile them yourself. For example, we use Varnish here, and the version in apt is horribly buggy and out of date compared to the latest release.
 
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Yellow Fang

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Is there a distro that is particularly good for playing music. I've Fedora on my PC for work reasons, but it doesn't want to play anything. It keeps complaining about the codecs being patented. I thought the whole point of these mp players was that they weren't.
 

Carwash

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Yellow Fang said:
I thought the whole point of these mp players was that they weren't.

You thought wrong. MP3 is a patented codec. Most distros should allow you to install support for it though, if you enable the right sources in the package manager. Or you could switch to Vorbis, which is not patent-encumbered.
 
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Yellow Fang

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Well, Crunchbang seems reasonably good at playing out music, except for those that iTunes helpfully encrypted - I did pay for them. Strangely, the only track that I downloaded, rather than copied from CDs, that isn't encrypted is XTC's cover of Statue of Liberty. Is there anything significant in that, I wonder.
 

Warren

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Ive used a few and find Ubuntu to be the best and most compatable. I only used it for a while but had problems getting things to work so i went back to windows. Im now using windows 7.
 

MickL

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Try VLC for playing media files including MP3 thanks to some legal action MP3 codec are not add by default to vanilla linux distros. We use Debain and FreeBSD at work and I all so use Ubuntu and dabbled with Mint.

Some great linux media centers out there if you want to try some thing a little different

Linux MCE
Enterainer Project

but for ease of use Ubuntu is the one I would go for.
 

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Catrike UK said:
Mepis is said to very good, I have a friend who swears by it, I will stick to OSX on my mac though.

In reality OSX is just a well polished and very expensive Linux distro...
 

HJ

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Catrike UK said:
Unix you mean, OSX is just a Unix gui. Unix has been around since 1973, Linux did not arrive until 1991. Here endeth the lesson.:biggrin:

And Leopard has only been with us since 2002...

Correction the server version was in 1999.
 

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Hairy Jock said:
In reality OSX is just a well polished and very expensive Linux distro...

Not really. It uses the Mach kernel, and is derived from BSD.

As for cheap... well if you're going to pay, a year's worth of Red Hat Enterprise support runs to $349, vs. $129 to buy the current version of OS X. For comparison, Vista Home Basic will set you back $199.95. Now of course, most home Linux users won't be paying - but based on those numbers, I wouldn't call OS X 'very expensive'.
 
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Hairy Jock said:
And Leopard has only been with us since 2002...

Correction the server version was in 1999.

That is irrelevant, it is still a Unix core not a Linux one. It was pure Unix from Tiger on, before that is was Apples own brand of Unix, Apple Unix was first launched in 1988 still before Linux was thought of. I'm a long time Mac user.
 
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