How many other road users are KSI by dangerous cyclists?
Who's at fault....Lorry driver, cyclist or the cycle lane designer?
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How many other road users are KSI by dangerous cyclists?
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
What's KSI please benb?
Killed or Seriously Injured.
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
Thank you.
OT, when I was employed in retail rather than being self employed in retail, within the company I worked for a KSI meant KEY STAGE INDICATOR which referred to training modules and how the trainee was progressing through them at particular points.
cd365
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Even if the figure was 1 then 1 is too many. The point is everyone should take care on the road, they have a responsibility to themselves and everyone around them. Too many times the finger is wagged at the motorist cause they are in the bigger vehicle. When I'm out and about the person primary responsible to make sure I'm not hurt in any way is me. The maneuver the cyclist made was dangerous to him but he still did it and got hurt. If he hadn't made that dangerous maneuver he wouldn't have got hurt, simples!
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
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From my point of view, and speaking generally, the finger isn't pointed at motorists nearly enough. Look at the kill rate:
As a point of comparison: since 2001, 576 British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq; 1,275 cyclists died on British streets. The latest data shows there were 1,850 deaths or serious injuries in the first half of 2011, a 12 per cent rise on the year before.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3306502.ece
On the other hand, here in this incident specifically, I'm finding it hard to blame the lorry driver to any large degree.
As a point of comparison: since 2001, 576 British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq; 1,275 cyclists died on British streets. The latest data shows there were 1,850 deaths or serious injuries in the first half of 2011, a 12 per cent rise on the year before.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3306502.ece
On the other hand, here in this incident specifically, I'm finding it hard to blame the lorry driver to any large degree.
cd365
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I agree, if a motorist maims or kills then they should be punished just as much as an attacker with a knife would be. Especially those who drink and drive.
Well, OK, but if you are trying to make the roads safer, then it's obvious where you should be concentrating your efforts.
subaqua
What’s the point
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I blame John Terry
Nigel-YZ1
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I'd extend it to all road users. A death is a death regardless of your weapon.
Mushroomgodmat
Über Member
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Are you assuming then that premeditated murder should carry the same charge as accidental murder, or murder by recklessness?
If that's the case I strongly disagree.
No such thing as "accidental murder" but if a lorry driver is drunk,speeding, chatting on a mobile, has fiddled the tacho or knowingly taken an unsafe, illegal vehicle on the roads it is no more an "accident" than a death caused by firing a gun along a crowded high street.
Mushroomgodmat
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cd365
Guru
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- Coventry, uk
Where is this, having never met me you seem to know my driving and riding skills. Being the perfect road user I'm surprised you are not a special adviser to the Government.
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