Who's in the wrong?

[Accy cyclist]

Sorry if it's been posted before. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5408529/Dramatic-footage-shows-cyclist-crashing-car.html To those who don't like clicking onto Daily Mail links,the story's about a car turning left into a police station when a bike approaching at speed on the car's inside collides with the car. The driver was indicating and did the maneuver in a correct way,as far as i can see. I think the cyclist was maybe going a bit too fast,but then we only have a few seconds of video to decide.

 

[Cuchilo]

Looking at that clip the cycle lane has a broken white line at the point of the turning so the car is in effect turning into another road / crossing a lane so should have given way .
The lycra clad cyclist that isn't clad in lycra should have really seen this was going to happen though .

 

[gavroche]

I haven't seen the video but if the driver was intending to turn left, even with his indicator on, he should have checked his left mirror before turning. That's all I can say without seeing the video. ( It won't play on my kindle).

 

[Slick]

How anyone can blame the cyclist for that is beyond me. Even the headline is beyond me, what's the bobble hat got to do with some halfwit turning across the path of other traffic?

 

[Tin Pot]

Footage doesn’t tell you anything.

It’s just click bait.

Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[mjr]

[QUOTE 5156787, member: 45"]It doesn't matter whose fault it was. The cyclist could have avoided that.[/QUOTE]
As should the motorist...

 

[Slick]

[QUOTE 5156830, member: 45"]Irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
Wow.

 

[davidphilips]

Difficult call? All i could say i would hope that if i had been either the driver or the cyclist i may have been able to avoid the collision?

There was a story in the local Bangor Spectator a few weeks ago about a cyclist that was killed on the Newtownards to Bangor carriageway early one morning last year (very well light road) the driver said he was blowing his nose and did not see the cyclist, the judge said to let that be a warning to cyclists to wear bright clothing and make sure they had lights fitted?
Yes the cyclist did not have lights but it was a very well light road at 5.50am with no other traffic so the trend seems to be cyclists are in the wrong even if the driver is careless?

So motto is treat every driver as dangerous and if they are good then great.

 

[broady]

If the driver had done it on their driving test would they have still passed??
I think that's the answer

 

[DCLane]

Driver could have looked and avoided it.

Cyclist could also have slowed down; the car was indicating.

Legally the driver's at fault, but this was avoidable.

 

[Tin Pot]

Wow.

wow just wow
Self-parodying phrase commonly uttered by intellectually sheltered political ideologues expressing visceral contempt for ideas they can't logically rebut

 

[Slick]

wow just wow
Self-parodying phrase commonly uttered by intellectually sheltered political ideologues expressing visceral contempt for ideas they can't logically rebut

Or, just she'll shocked and didn't expect to come across such attitudes on a cycling forum about cyclists.

 

[gbb]

Easy decision, both to blame... or at fault if you prefer.

 

[bpsmith]

If the driver had done it on their driving test would they have still passed??
I think that's the answer

I can’t imagine anyone who is involved in a crash on their test, regardless to blame, would actually get a pass on the day. At best they would be rescheduled.

 

[Jimidh]

I think both are at fault - yes the driver should have checked but equally if the cyclist was paying attention to what was going on about him then he should have anticipated the driver was about to make a bad move and act accordingly.

I always tell people you are better keep out of the way of idiots and stay safe even when you are in the right.