Drago
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That's why you're supposed to stop behind the first vehicle in the queue, but few do.
Glenn forger cites a report about an analysis by TRL. In that case, they weren't doing any experiment. At first glance, it seems to be OK, but if you've spotted flaws, please describe them. Lots of data is published, so other analyses should be possible.Holding up any stats produced by the TRL is worrying, after they got caught crash testing a motorbike with the engine removed. This was presumably because it was cheap, but considering The motor was a load bearing member on that model it kind of entirely negated the experiment.
That doesn't help if you are in the gutter, in fact it makes it worse if you are slow and in the gutter as then all the traffic behind continues to try to overtake you. I watch this manoeuvre daily as I wait to turn right at a junction where most cyclists are going straight on and a lot of cars are turning left. So far I haven't witnessed an accident but I've seen lots of close calls.That's why you're supposed to stop behind the first vehicle in the queue, but few do.
When I ride with the girls, if I'm in front, on a narrowing of the road/pinch point and a car comes up, all start shouting immediately "car behind, car behind" like we are supposed to squash ourselves against the kerb or something.I ride with a group of women and when on a local busy A road I am the only one who rides on the actual road rather than on the left of the white line. I don't ride in the gutter as I just don't feel safe there. I stake my claim on the road as I am entitled to. By the same token I treat myself as a car. I don't filter down the side of standing traffic, I wait in line. I believe that if I treat myself as taking the space of a car then hopefully others will do the same. Realistically this doesn't always happen but I really am quite territorial about my road space!
When I ride with the girls, if I'm in front, on a narrowing of the road/pinch point and a car comes up, all start shouting immediately "car behind, car behind" like we are supposed to squash ourselves against the kerb or something.
I always shout back "well, car has to wait!" and explain why as per bikability rules, but the very next time, again "car behind, car behind".
So overtake the stationary car and plonk myself infront of it? Or have I misunderstood what you meant? If that is what you mean they would probably run me over on purposeYou could just as easily do the same in front of the car that you currently leave in front of you.
Statistics .... it's a fact male cyclists are more assertive in trafficSo overtake the stationary car and plonk myself infront of it? Or have I misunderstood what you meant? If that is what you mean they would probably run me over on purpose
It was tongue in cheek actually.It might be. Alternatively it might be a lazy stereotype.
Men may also feel less inclined to ‘show off’ by taking risks
when they already have a partner because the potential gains (e.g., attracting a
partner when you already have one) from risk taking may not be as high
I do it all the time especially if they overtook me a silly distance from the traffic lights (I'm often in rebellious mood when cycling), even better if they are stuck at the back of the queue. I've been known to set off really slowly as well....Statistics .... it's a fact male cyclists are more assertive in traffic
I did this only once, because the driver in front close passed me to get there, I was in a rebellious mood He wasn't too pleased!
Yep riding too close to the kerbs your more likely to get hit.Less likely to take assertive road position is my guess.