Why do we accept tubeless, but not waxed chains?

[Sea of vapours]

It is so little faff to remove, and later replace, a chain equipped with a Wipperman Connex link (re-usable for the life of the chain) that I often do so in order to remove the rear wheel as it makes putting said wheel back marginally easier and one-handed. For clarity, that is very close to zero faff !

 

[scotsbikester]

Use the quicklink u opened and attach it to the new chain, then pull it through using the crank.

I use that method on my trikes which use up to 3 chains

Thanks. Yes, that's what I thought. I might reserve a quick link just to use for changeovers, so I'm not "wearing" a good one. I've got plenty of spares, as the chains came with quicklinks I'm not using.

 

[Paulus]

Can I just say:

Anyone still using rim brakes is an idiot and a luddite.

I am that person.😁
Still using downtime levers on a few of my bikes as well.

 

[Dorset Boy]

I've said it numerous times, you really don't need to hott wax your chain every 2-300 miles. You should be getting at least 800 miles, and generally 1,000 miles out of each waxing.
For some of you, that will be a rewax three or four times a year tops,

If using something like Squirt, then yes, it needs topping up every 300 miles or so, but that's like using any other liquid based lubes.

 

[Webbo2]

I've said it numerous times, you really don't need to hott wax your chain every 2-300 miles. You should be getting at least 800 miles, and generally 1,000 miles out of each waxing.
For some of you, that will be a rewax three or four times a year tops,

If using something like Squirt, then yes, it needs topping up every 300 miles or so, but that's like using any other liquid based lubes.

This makes it quite a lot more attractive given 200 miles would mean changing and rewaxing your chain every week.However given the house is on the market having a pot of wax bubbling away whilst we are having a viewing might be a no,no with Mrs W. So it might be a post move thing for me.

 

[Webbo2]

I like waxing my chain. But I draw the line at this sort of "hott waxx"


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-9pk1Kg4A4


Hollywood trivia - that was all for real. The actress who played the waxer exaggerated her waxing experience. Steve Carrell uses her real name when he's swearing at her. And Romany Malco (Jay) really couldn't stand it so had to leave the room.

Is waxing your chain a euphemism 😳😳😳 When I raced and shaved my legs, Mrs W once waxed mine, not an experienced to be repeated.

 

[geocycle]

I’ve not considered using wax on my chain. It seems to have passed me by. I don’t really spend much time on chains being a Mickle method sort of chap. I’ll probably give it a go at some point.

Tubeless has been a very mixed experience. I’ve had 5 incidents where it simply didn’t work causing serious deflation and fountains of sealant. This was despite introducing worms and darts, meaning I had to resort back to tubes. Each time was a lot of hassle and on one occasion where I had a puncture in each tyre it really impacted a tour. For the last year I’ve had a much better experience using muck off sealant rather than Stans in the the Schwalbe pro ones on the audax bike and swapping out the Panaracer gravelking plus for Schwalbe G ones on the elan. So at the moment I’m positive about tubeless and hoping the tyre and sealant combos are now right.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

10 years was brilliant apart from scraping out old dry sealant. Then one time puncture didn’t seal & a tube wouldn’t fit in my carbon wheel with the TL 5000s. Local cyclist driving by brought me home.

So one problem in 10 years and you just gave up?

 

[YMFB]

I’ve only had to fit a tube on a ride once since going tubeless. The Dynaplug racer has fixed all the others. I have the m/c version and have successfully plugged my rear tyre.

 

[Milzy]

So one problem in 10 years and you just gave up?

Yeah because it’s flawed, and I’d end up with a second problem soon.

 

[Milzy]

What was wrong with square taper bottom brackets?

 

[Cycling Badger]

Tubeless is great right up until it’s not. Too much mess when it fails - I’ll see if I can find the image. Valves get clogged and it make swapping tyres a PITA. Plus, it has a lifespan in the tyre and I’m not really prepared to change in all my wheels every 6-months. Currently restricting it to my XC MTB.

Not using wax chains at present but up for giving it a go. I probably remove chains on a regular basis to give a good clean before re-oiling so waxing shouldn’t be too much more effort. Like the idea of less mess and less grinding paste.

 

[brommieinkorea]

Wax works great in the desert. It doesn't attract dirt, and a little water in a chain cleaner cleans it off, of course I'm lazy so I was using White Lightning most of the time.
I haven't had enough flats to make me want to go through any hassle to change my tubed setup. When I rode around the Goatshead thorns, tubeless for bikes didn't exist, but I think I'd have lept at any technology that would eliminate the daily patch install.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Yeah because it’s flawed, and I’d end up with a second problem soon.

Hardly flawed. Just a simple problem for you to solve. You have given up on the equivalent of failing to patch one tube in a decade.

 

[yello]

I don't have an opinion here because I've not used chain wax nor tubeless. Like my (Brooks) saddle, I've just not felt the need for change. I could say that it's a kind of 'if ain't broke don't fix it' thinking but in other areas of my life, I like trying out different stuff. So perhaps it's just laziness or lack of interest.

I'm a long time adherent of the 'Mickle method' and my only tyre gripe is the damned cost these days.