Why do we accept tubeless, but not waxed chains?

[Binky]

I've always waxed my chains, previously Squirt drip wax and now Silca hot wax. Seems a good system for me.

As for tubes etc, always run with butyl inner tubes and as new bike came with TPU installed I've gone that route. Too early to tell longevity/issues etc.

As for tubeless, no intention at all of trying that. I ride exclusively on road and 99% in dry. So far I see no need for changing. I can definitely see the advantages but the thought of being out on road miles from home and having to put tube into a tubeless set up puts me off. Yes I know some say it's a doddle but lots more say what a nightmare they've had and I've seen that myself.
Not dissing it, just currently not for me. Then again I thought that about hot waxing previously so who knows. Watch this space with bated breath....

 

[Cycling Badger]

This was the point I decided tubeless wasn’t necessarily the best choice.

 

[matticus]

What was wrong with square taper bottom brackets?

I know it's a hassle to change, but if JUST ONE LIFE is saved by switching to the new system , surely that's a good thing??

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[matticus]

This was the point I decided tubeless wasn’t necessarily the best choice.

Did you get it on your flip-flops? Sending thoughts and prayers :-(

 

[Paulus]

What was wrong with square taper bottom brackets?

Nothing.

 

[JonBuoy]

This was the point I decided tubeless wasn’t necessarily the best choice.

I was flagged down by a bloke in the middle of nowhere who had a very similar looking problem with his tubeless road bike. He was also using blue sealant and it was everywhere - it looked like the scene of an alien massacre. Having helped him sort it out he told me that that was it and he was going back to tubes.

 

[Cycling Badger]

Did you get it on your flip-flops? Sending thoughts and prayers :-(

That’s my glasses case. Reached the point in life where reading glasses are as essential a part of repair kit as multi-tool.

By the time I got home the sealant was well and truly welded to frame. Joy.

 

[yello]

the sealant was well and truly welded to frame

That would seriously deter me from ever using it. I wouldn't be 'avin that.

 

[sevenfourate]

Slight aside: my 22” BMX (Single speed of course) has a full Half-link KMC chain. Supremely strong. Notoriously; can be a little noisy.

I recently moved over to Waxing the chain on this bike…..after previously trying / using some supposedly brilliantly rated ‘Oils’.

The smoothness, lack of noise etc is genuinely very impressive. A complete transformation 👌

 

[scotsbikester]

This was the point I decided tubeless wasn’t necessarily the best choice.

Thanks for that picture. I have never had tubeless tyres. What is the blue stuff? Sealant?

 

[Webbo2]

Thanks for that picture. I have never had tubeless tyres. What is the blue stuff? Sealant?

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[brommieinkorea]

That’s my glasses case. Reached the point in life where reading glasses are as essential a part of repair kit as multi-tool.

By the time I got home the sealant was well and truly welded to frame. Joy.

So the sealant does dry, that's nice to know....

 

[bulldoze]

It is so little faff to remove, and later replace, a chain equipped with a Wipperman Connex link (re-usable for the life of the chain) that I often do so in order to remove the rear wheel as it makes putting said wheel back marginally easier and one-handed. For clarity, that is very close to zero faff !

You have convinced me. I did not know about the Connex re-usable links till this thread.

My Ultegra Di2 is not as smooth as I would like so once re-indexed I will investigate waxing. Perhaps, I will get a pre-waxed chain to start with and then move on from there if I like it.

 

[Shortfall]

I've always waxed my chains, previously Squirt drip wax and now Silca hot wax. Seems a good system for me.

As for tubes etc, always run with butyl inner tubes and as new bike came with TPU installed I've gone that route. Too early to tell longevity/issues etc.

As for tubeless, no intention at all of trying that. I ride exclusively on road and 99% in dry. So far I see no need for changing. I can definitely see the advantages but the thought of being out on road miles from home and having to put tube into a tubeless set up puts me off. Yes I know some say it's a doddle but lots more say what a nightmare they've had and I've seen that myself.
Not dissing it, just currently not for me. Then again I thought that about hot waxing previously so who knows. Watch this space with bated breath....

Why do people put tubes into tubeless tyre when the sealant hasn't worked in a world where tyre worms exist and take seconds to use?

 

[Binky]

Why do people put tubes into tubeless tyre when the sealant hasn't worked in a world where tyre worms exist and take seconds to use?

It's when either the worm hasn't done the job or they didn't have any I assume.

You'll have to ask them to be certain as I've never tried tubeless but pretty sure those are the reasons.

What I find interesting though is vast majority as far as I know carry a tube and tyre levers "just in case". As a user of inner tubes I don't have to carry any other system in the event of a puncture.