Witnessed some racism in Glasgow earlier this morning

[tdr1nka]

It's true.

You quite obviously don't need anyones help to make mistakes.

 

[Noodley]

What exactly is it that you're accusing me of here? I'm not advocating or supporting racism in any way. I'm just pointing out that not all personal abuse between people of differing races is racially motivated, is that really so hard to grasp?

Yes, you keep calling me vile Noodly, which isn't abusive at all is it? I think it is and from someone who's supposed to be a moderator is totally unacceptable, but then who's going to stop you?

I assume you are accusing me of being racist here by choosing to deliberately misinterpret what I've said? Up to you but as I say, you know nothing about me. Anyone who does knows I'm not racist. Would a racist actively seek to befriend and help immigrants? I guess you'll have some twisted reasoning to explain why such actions hide evil motives because that's what you do. Feel free, knock yourself out.

I called you blinkered and conceited and stated your views were vile.

If you have any evidence I have in any way acted incorrectly as a Moderator please feel free to contact Admin and let him know about it. I'm sure he would take a very dim view had I done so. If you think I need 'stopped' then I'm sure other Moderators and Admin will take your views into account - unless of course you are inferring there is a bias? I'm sure Admin would be interested in this as well.

I don't need to 'knock myself out' on this one - you've done a better job than anyone could.

And for someone who has so little regard for my opinion of you, you seem to give it a lot of attention when there are so many others who share my views.

 

[chap]

Yes, but she was supposed to get upset by my comment. that was my intention. I'm not defending it, I would not say something like that today, in fact it was not something I would have been in the habit of saying at the time, but I did say it.

However, even at that time I was not racist. I've told people I would kill them but had no intention of doing so. If some of you want to paint me as a racist because of something I've admitted to doing when a child that's up to you, everyone needs a hobby I guess. Anyone who actually knows me knows the truth and some of you have shown me enough of your character for me to pretty much ignore anything you say.

Well if you were white yourself you wouldn't would you? Had you and your boss been black he may well have done. Insults can take all forms and be targeted at virtually any trait or characteristic of the recipient but because someone chooses to insult another person, even if he targets their colour, does does not automatically mean that he or she hates everyone from that individuals ethnic group. They might, but the point is that you can't know that from one colour related comment. My boss will slag off Catholics and joke about homosexuals but half of the people he's employed are Catholic and he's had a few gay employees without anyone felling they were discriminated against in any way, because they aren't.

No it doesn't. He could be, no doubt about it, but he could just have been angry, having a bad day or not a very nice guy. Choosing to include someone's colour in a spur-of-the-moment insult does not mean you hate everyone of their race. You might, but to draw that from one comment is adding two and two and getting sixty.

If of course if the nice gentleman in question really was Nick Griffin then we have other evidence to go on that helps you be slightly more sure! ;0) Incidentally, while it would be nice to dismiss Griffin as a fringe lunatic I think he's considerably more dangerous than many think. I think he's extremely devious and capable of gathering more support than would be healthy.

Your inept justifications merely betray you as an odious and dimwitted scroat. A well placed insult is to the point, and bears relevance, you merely acted upon your own prejudice and used that as the weakest link.

Fair enough, this was done when you were 15 although the tangential revelations of your posts, and the fact that you still hold it in accordance with a record of achievement, heavily suggests that you have matured little if at all.

 

[soulful dog]

Maybe I'm missing something but I've tried re-reading this thread and the reaction to it sees to be a huge over-reaction? There are people who are deliberately racist and feel and act superior to others because of it and they deserve nothing but disdain, but this thread seems to have gotten a bit out of proportion....

 

[bonj2]

Whilst I do think that telling somebody to go and pick cotton probably IS at least slightly racist, I do think that there is a certain (alright a lot) of high-horse jumping-on, this and the glib desire to put fingers in ears and 'la la la' while the salient point of the difference between racism for racism's sake and racism for frustration's sake goes sailing by, doesn't help the cause.

Mr Pig, you were being racist, but hopefully you'll understand that those intelligent enough to do so have actually understood the point you're making about the difference beween the desire to insult with whatever means available and the desire to abuse purely to cause racial offence, but I wouldn't hold out much hope of any of these other morons to understand it (or to admit they understand it), they're far too entrenched into their witch hunt now - which is gathering momentum far too nicely to contemplate going back on now.
Seventeenth century justice at its best - you've tried to swim, but all it's proved to the clamouring masses is that you need to be burnt at the stake.

 

[Noodley]

Give me strength!

Bonj and Mr Pig's guide to Racism

 

[Wigsie]

Ahhh the weekend and a controversial thread on CC... who would have thought it!

 

[scott s10]

can anyone honestly say theyve never been racist at some point in their life

 

[Wigsie]

can anyone honestly say theyve never been racist at some point in their life

oooohh.... someone else can get strung up for playing devils advocate for once!

 

[ttcycle]

Yes scott I can, with a big resounding yes - unless it's a deliberate un PC joke amongst close friends who know me very well and get my weird humour- besides it's for irony purposes considering I am 'one of dem efnics'

 

[scott s10]

Yes scott I can, with a big resounding yes - unless it's a deliberate un PC joke amongst close friends who know me very well and get my weird humour- besides it's for irony purposes considering I am 'one of dem efnics'

well have you ever said an racist comment about a white. one thing that winds me up is that all the news press and everything make out that its always the whites who are racist when its not. i have seen more black people say racist comments about white people than others. comments like vanilla face, mily bar kid. have a think about it

 

[ttcycle]

Trust me Scott, I agree with you - racism is not just confined to white people- I have first hand experience of this too and find it utter crud. I can still say a big resounding yes in not having made a racist comment about someone white either.

The press report things incorrectly and in a biased way all the time but doesn't make an excuse for racist comments either way.

 

[scott s10]

Trust me Scott, I agree with you - racism is not just confined to white people- I have first hand experience of this too and find it utter crud. I can still say a big resounding yes in not having made a racist comment about someone white either.

The press report things incorrectly and in a biased way all the time but doesn't make an excuse for racist comments either way.

exactly

 

[scott s10]

and its gone mad because teachers in schools arent aloud to call an blackboard an blackboard , they have to call it an chalkboard.

 

[ttcycle]

but how does that even remotely link in with you asking if people have never been racist in their life?

And how does that prove anything you were trying to say.

Chip and shoulder would be a sentence I'd use right now.

Basically racist comments are utter shite whether bourne out of malice and spite or just pure stupidity and ignorance - whoever they come from.
Banter between mates is a different thing but that isn't racism.