Workplace Parking II - Tax Spaces ?

[User482]

From your description, your wife's working day is extremely badly managed.

1. All of the technology exists to stop so many trips to and from the office.
2. Better planning would stop her having to make visits to places not near each other.
3. For employees with significant mileage claims, it's cheaper to provide a lease car. This has the added advantage of allowing for more sustainable modes of commuting.

For any large team, the small increase in admin needed to do all this would pay for itself.

I should point out that the proposal being discussed is an employer rather than employee tax.

 

[User482]

I just thought that as you were on the issue of who pays for what, I thought it safe to draw the parallel.

It's been done to death on this forum many, many times, and is irrelevant to this discussion.

Use the search function.

 

[Black Sheep]

From your description, your wife's working day is extremely badly managed.

1. All of the technology exists to stop so many trips to and from the office.
2. Better planning would stop her having to make visits to places not near each other.
3. For employees with significant mileage claims, it's cheaper to provide a lease car. This has the added advantage of allowing for more sustainable modes of commuting.

For any large team, the small increase in admin needed to do all this would pay for itself.

I should point out that the proposal being discussed is an employer rather than employee tax.

technology does exist, except a lot of what they do must be done on paper, not digitally, some of it for confidentiality reasons, the other being filling out forms on-site where there is no technology and needing to get them to another department.

better planning is easier when the department is not understaffed, otherwise you have to fit things / people in when you can.
especially for a team of 6 (sharing an office with a couple of other departments that they work alongside)

I'd missed the fact that it was an employer tax and latched onto the notion that an employer might pass the cost on to employee - I know some people do pay for a parking permit for their work car park, so it's possible

 

[Drago]

Although it is expected that many employers will pass on the cost, as has occurred on Nottingham.

 

[dellzeqq]

really?

bye bye rural community health care then.
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her employers will just have to find the cash. And they'd have an incentive to manage the space

 

[User482]

technology does exist, except a lot of what they do must be done on paper, not digitally, some of it for confidentiality reasons, the other being filling out forms on-site where there is no technology and needing to get them to another department.

People's belief that paper is a secure medium is extremely naive. Much better to use secure electronic comms - which is what the Criminal Justice System uses. Mobile devices would allow forms to be filled out electronically on site.

better planning is easier when the department is not understaffed, otherwise you have to fit things / people in when you can.
especially for a team of 6 (sharing an office with a couple of other departments that they work alongside)

I agree. It's a failure by your wife's managers.

I'd missed the fact that it was an employer tax and latched onto the notion that an employer might pass the cost on to employee - I know some people do pay for a parking permit for their work car park, so it's possible

They could, but equally, your wife could just taker longer to do her job, due to the need to find somewhere to park.

 

[dellzeqq]

Although it is expected that many employers will pass on the cost, as has occurred on Nottingham.

reasonable if the car use was not work-related

 

[dellzeqq]

The trouble with lefties is they feel they have the right to micro manage everybodies lives....

<shudders> Sorry I came over all Patrick there, whats this thread about then?

taxation has to be raised somewhere. It's just a question of where.

 

[dellzeqq]

Stop subsidising loss making public transport routes would be a start.

yup. And watch cities come to a complete stop.

The thing is......nobody needs car drivers. They're few in number and take up vast quantities of space. Cities that tax parking spaces will win every which way

1. There'll be less congestion
2. People living locally, and in the tax area) will have a competitive advantage when looking for work
3. If car spaces are turned in to something worthwhile employment will be created, the tax base will increase, and the city will look the better for it
4. if water run-off decreases the chances of drains surcharging will decrease (and you may think this is a marginal thing, but we are talking billions here.........)

 

[dellzeqq]

Well if they cant even make money in cities, then I guess the whole infrastructure is f*cked.

a very positive attitude

 

[User482]

Well if they cant even make money in cities, then I guess the whole infrastructure is f*cked.

They can - on the busy routes at busy times. Which is all we'd be left with if there were no subsidy.

 

[Black Sheep]

her employers will just have to find the cash. And they'd have an incentive to manage the space

the NHS has no money which is why community nursing teams (especially school nurses who deal with ages 5-18, following on from the health visitors Cameron is always banging on about) are understaffed.

People's belief that paper is a secure medium is extremely naive. Much better to use secure electronic comms - which is what the Criminal Justice System uses. Mobile devices would allow forms to be filled out electronically on site.

I agree, although the NHS uses specific software for its handling of data. I think, given that many people my wife meets with are young offenders or just people from a rough area and often has to go to house visits in these areas that equipment may be stolen or worse, employees attacked in order to steal the equipment.

I agree. It's a failure by your wife's managers.

yup, partly that, partly the lack of money to have an admin team, as such time is taken up by the team themselves doing their own admin. She worked for a couple of weeks at a different school nursing team who actually had a large admin team and things worked much smoothly as it was organised by people that are in the same office at the same time, unlike the team she's working as part of at the moment.

but that's besides the point.

They could, but equally, your wife could just taker longer to do her job, due to the need to find somewhere to park.[/quote]

 

[dellzeqq]

I don't think any bus network makes a profit, and it's impossible to entirely separate one city route from the next. The person the travels on the half empty 417 will then queue to get on the rammed 59. No 417 and the 59 runs light. Equally - the person that goes to work at six in the morning may be returning when the buses are rammed - if they can't get to work, the bus home will be light. All you can do is to tailor the network to needs and to recognise that at some times the buses will be light and at others they will be full

 

[User482]

You mean we would have buses when people actually wanted them and none when people didnt? Shocking!

So in smegworld, the only people allowed to use buses are commuters living near main roads?

 

[dellzeqq]

the NHS has no money which is why community nursing teams (especially school nurses who deal with ages 5-18, following on from the health visitors Cameron is always banging on about) are understaffed.

then they should sell as much of the car park for development as they can