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OP
OP
BSRU

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
User3143 said:
Not as a tool to ride after some cabbie who made a genuine mistake and confront them in a car park. Then start a thread about what to do and use the fact that he was parked in a parent & toddler space (not illegal) as a contributing factor.

It is genuine bad driving. Parking in a parent/toddler space shows lack of respect for rules that most people have the decency to follow.

Like I wrote before in this thread, I do not normally ride after drivers, this was the first time and due to the fact it was the second bad taxi driving incident in a few days. I did not seek to inflame the situation, I stayed on my bike and just cycled passed, I said nothing to him, he offered his insincere apology without prompting. There was no confrontation.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about helmet cams.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
User3143 said:
No I have not and I see you have not answered my questions with respect to the amount of people that view your vids on YouTube you really think you make that much of an impact?

What, over 900,000 views? Well, admittedly that includes my skating vids, I can't be bothered to go count them up seperately. LMAO!

User3143 said:
As for the strawman argument I find it ironic that you mention my misunderstanding when it was you that went off tangent. I'm still a bit confused as to your reasoning about me having an opinion about helmet cameras to then being labelled a 'selfish cyclist' not caring about my fellow cyclists? Clutching at starws perhaps?

What exactly is it that you do to help your fellow cyclists? Is your unwillingness to do something perhaps just as selfish as your red light jumping is?
 
OP
OP
BSRU

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
User3143 said:
Taxi's travel in bus lanes Dondare, it's a known fact if the OP had bothered to look at his position he wouldn't of been passed so close.

If you bothered to actually watch the video you will see he straddles the solid white line forcing the taxi in the other lane to move wider, what position on a bicycle is going to stop a muppet like that. I am in the middle of the lane to try and stop idiots like him trying to squeeze past, it normally works.
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
The OP could have moved in a bit but the cabbie should not have assumed that this was about to happen. A professional driver should be able to read the situation and act appropriately. If he wanted to hammer along the bus lane in order to gain a few seconds then he could at least have entered it after he was clear of the cyclist.
Why use the reserved space at all? It stinks of bad attitude.

I'm wondering about a camera, but I don't wear a lid.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
dondare said:
Well that is consistant with my alternative hypothesis that it's the confrontational cyclists who use the helmet cams.

As Karpaith reminded us recently, correlation is not the same as cause.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. I've said much along the lines of Martin's comment in the past.
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
BSRU said:
If you bothered to actually watch the video you will see he straddles the solid white line forcing the taxi in the other lane to move wider, what position on a bicycle is going to stop a muppet like that. I am in the middle of the lane to try and stop idiots like him trying to squeeze past, it normally works.

"Taking the lane" sometimes works but not with the driver who always overtakes cyclists.
 
OP
OP
BSRU

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
dondare said:
I'm wondering about a camera, but I don't wear a lid.
That is a downside, having to wear a helmet all the time, I would not usually wear a helmet when it gets warmer unless it was peeing it down.
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
BentMikey said:
I'm not sure I follow your logic. I've said much along the lines of Martin's comment in the past.

Still only a hypothesis. Or two. Not enough data yet.

The cyclists who post on Youtube don't react to situations the way I'd react or the way I see most other cyclists react.
 
OP
OP
BSRU

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
dondare said:
"Taking the lane" sometimes works but not with the driver who always overtakes cyclists.
I have to take that position as I would end up with loads of taxi's barging past. In that position taxi's normally stick to the non-bus lane, using the bus lane saves them no time.
The bus drivers are far more courteous and always wait behind, in response I give it a bit more gas and move out of their way as soon as possible, just after the end of the bus lane.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Yeah, but your earlier comment doesn't seem to confirm what you suggest. Perhaps you might explain a little more?

One difference is that pointing out the camera will almost certainly prevent someone from having another go at you, be that verbal or with their vehicle.
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
dondare said:
Still only a hypothesis. Or two. Not enough data yet.

The cyclists who post on Youtube don't react to situations the way I'd react or the way I see most other cyclists react.

This was kind of my point. Now I wear a camera, my reactions are completely different to the way I used to react to an issue with a driver. I am now much calmer, more thoughtful and less likely to go ballistic at bad driving (and believe me in SE London there are many opportunities). On this basis I would say cameras are a good thing, I'm sure drivers would agree with me as now they are just politely informed that they are being filmed rather than having to quickly wind their window up whilst faced with a cyclist frothing at the mouth, hurling obscenities their way. :laugh:
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
BentMikey said:
Yeah, but your earlier comment doesn't seem to confirm what you suggest. Perhaps you might explain a little more?

One difference is that pointing out the camera will almost certainly prevent someone from having another go at you, be that verbal or with their vehicle.

I have very little trouble on the road when cycling and I never feel that there is any advantage in informing bad drivers that they are bad drivers. I think that this will simply turn them into bad-tempered bad drivers which is worse.
I don't see other cyclists chasing down motorists in order to tell them that they have comitted some misdemeanor and such confrontations that I have witnessed have been initiated by the driver.
But on Youtube it's quite different.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
You've got to be having a laugh, dondare. You've never seen other cyclists chasing down drivers to shout at them? I see it quite regularly. Maybe you don't ride very much.

p.s. I also have very little trouble on the road. :laugh:
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
BentMikey said:
You've got to be having a laugh, dondare. You've never seen other cyclists chasing down drivers to shout at them? I see it quite regularly. Maybe you don't ride very much.

p.s. I also have very little trouble on the road. :laugh:

I ride a fair bit. I'll start noticing such events if they happen.

North London is rather more civilised than Sarf London, perhaps.
 
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