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Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
On a side note I spent the last couple of months not racing but doing longer steady efforts in prep for the summer which is now of course disintegrating. I’m going to stop short of saying zone t... 😄

And it’s fair to say it has done nothing for my racing. If you want to go fast you have to train at it. I know a lot of you do, and we all joke about zone 2 a fair bit. I’m not entirely sure we all understand the theory behind it but anyway... long story short there’s no short cuts to going fast! 😄
In the real world you're correct ... but on Zwift, there are loads of shortcuts to going (virtually) faster :laugh:

On a side note of my own, I was really pleased with my outside ride yesterday. 52 mins, mostly flat (200 metres ascent only for that time). A few junctions to slow me down, road-works on one road that halted progress, obviously no drafting, some pretty poor surfaces at times but ... I managed 31.1 kph / 19.3 mph which I'm actually really pleased with. I go faster on Zwift but there the roads are perfect, I get better drafting, I can fly around corners at breakneck speed etc etc.

Strava can only estimate watts, so next thing to save up for is a power meter for the bike ^_^
 

BurningLegs

Veteran
Strava can only estimate watts, so next thing to save up for is a power meter for the bike ^_^

Ive thought about a PM a few times, but I do an embarrassingly small number of hours outside, and I don’t ride outside for training, I do it for leisure. So happy to ride on feel and enjoy the view/pain depending on what mood I’m in.

I’ve decided to save the funds for an improved turbo if/when my current entry level trainer fails (think it’s about four years old now) or there is something compelling to upgrade to (Zwift hardware in the medium term with additional features perhaps?)
 

Norry1

Legendary Member
Location
Warwick
On a side note I spent the last couple of months not racing but doing longer steady efforts in prep for the summer which is now of course disintegrating. I’m going to stop short of saying zone t... 😄

And it’s fair to say it has done nothing for my racing. If you want to go fast you have to train at it. I know a lot of you do, and we all joke about zone 2 a fair bit. I’m not entirely sure we all understand the theory behind it but anyway... long story short there’s no short cuts to going fast! 😄

Well, the theory isn't that you just do loads of Zone 2. That is what you should be doing in the Base Phase. As you get nearer to your Target Event you go through Build Phase and then Peak/Specialise Phase each of which starts to look more like your target event. I was aiming for a June Peak, but obviously that has all gone out the window now.
 

peterob

Veteran
Location
Chester
In the real world you're correct ... but on Zwift, there are loads of shortcuts to going (virtually) faster :laugh:

On a side note of my own, I was really pleased with my outside ride yesterday. 52 mins, mostly flat (200 metres ascent only for that time). A few junctions to slow me down, road-works on one road that halted progress, obviously no drafting, some pretty poor surfaces at times but ... I managed 31.1 kph / 19.3 mph which I'm actually really pleased with. I go faster on Zwift but there the roads are perfect, I get better drafting, I can fly around corners at breakneck speed etc etc.

Strava can only estimate watts, so next thing to save up for is a power meter for the bike ^_^
Well done Carl :okay:. It’s great when you get that first decent outside ride in and it feels like the months of effort on the turbo have actually made a difference ^_^
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Well, the theory isn't that you just do loads of Zone 2. That is what you should be doing in the Base Phase. As you get nearer to your Target Event you go through Build Phase and then Peak/Specialise Phase each of which starts to look more like your target event. I was aiming for a June Peak, but obviously that has all gone out the window now.

No I get that. I was highlighting how much of my ‘top end’ I’d lost while not pushing myself in races. As I said that’s because I’d knowingly made that sacrifice to work more on my endurance.

I also often read comments by people who are struggling in races and can’t understand why. And I’d suggest that they weren’t pushing themselves hard enough with the riding they do. Lots of people have very muddled ideas of what they expect I think. If you have a long term goal then that’s something different.
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
In the real world you're correct ... but on Zwift, there are loads of shortcuts to going (virtually) faster :laugh:

On a side note of my own, I was really pleased with my outside ride yesterday. 52 mins, mostly flat (200 metres ascent only for that time). A few junctions to slow me down, road-works on one road that halted progress, obviously no drafting, some pretty poor surfaces at times but ... I managed 31.1 kph / 19.3 mph which I'm actually really pleased with. I go faster on Zwift but there the roads are perfect, I get better drafting, I can fly around corners at breakneck speed etc etc.

Strava can only estimate watts, so next thing to save up for is a power meter for the bike ^_^

Definitely yes to a power meter if you want to bridge the gap between indoors and outdoors. Like you say there’s so many other variables it’s hard to make solid comparisons to other measurements. Strava power estimates are well off for what it’s worth.
 

JuhaL

Guru
In the real world you're correct ... but on Zwift, there are loads of shortcuts to going (virtually) faster :laugh:

On a side note of my own, I was really pleased with my outside ride yesterday. 52 mins, mostly flat (200 metres ascent only for that time). A few junctions to slow me down, road-works on one road that halted progress, obviously no drafting, some pretty poor surfaces at times but ... I managed 31.1 kph / 19.3 mph which I'm actually really pleased with. I go faster on Zwift but there the roads are perfect, I get better drafting, I can fly around corners at breakneck speed etc etc.

Strava can only estimate watts, so next thing to save up for is a power meter for the bike ^_^
I don't wanna blow wind to sail too early yet and make you to hurry to purchase power meter but i can recommend Quarq DZero, it's accurate and it's worked well with me. But because it's a spider based power meter it's not handy as power pedals which are easier/faster to swap with bikes.
 
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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
Bored





So




I decided to go Walter White

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Or Tommy:biggrin:
 
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Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
I love my Powertap pedals. Really easy swap between bikes and work like a dream. Just wish they would read a bit higher :smile:
I'm torn between pedals or crank ..... :wacko: probably won't pull the trigger just yet so no rush to make a decision.
 
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