Zwift Chat

[bridgy]

Was there talk of a few of us doing the same Tour De Zwift event this afternoon/evening? Did we decide on a time slot? (Sorry if I've missed it)

 

[Legs]

Haha, I'm entered for a race tomorrow morning and there's only one other entrant so far. I clicked on her and she's got a hilarious ZwiftPower profile:

https://zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=3478003

I don't know what's funniest; that her weight has apparently fluctuated so much, that she rides at constant power (bot?), or that she appears to have raced up to 7 times a day...

 

[alex_cycles]

Haha, I'm entered for a race tomorrow morning and there's only one other entrant so far. I clicked on her and she's got a hilarious ZwiftPower profile:

https://zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=3478003

I don't know what's funniest; that her weight has apparently fluctuated so much, that she rides at constant power (bot?), or that she appears to have raced up to 7 times a day...

Big lunch on Christmas eve, followed by a glorious evacuation ...

 

[Peter Salt]

Was there talk of a few of us doing the same Tour De Zwift event this afternoon/evening? Did we decide on a time slot? (Sorry if I've missed it)

There was an idea but not too many takers. I'm signed up for 17:00 3-laps but looks like there's also 3 people for the 18:00 3- and 2-laps.

Haha, I'm entered for a race tomorrow morning and there's only one other entrant so far. I clicked on her and she's got a hilarious ZwiftPower profile:

https://zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=3478003

I don't know what's funniest; that her weight has apparently fluctuated so much, that she rides at constant power (bot?), or that she appears to have raced up to 7 times a day...

This person probably doesn't even know they're on ZP.

 

[CXRAndy]

Is that your castle in the distance?

I was wondering if anyone would spy the newbuild on the horizon 😁

Can you guess which one it is?

 

[CXRAndy]

Rolling Highlands recon vid for race 6 ZRL. I know a lot of us are going to ride it today, but for anyone else, here it is...

View: https://youtu.be/wwwAYmBxtrg

Doubtful I'll get chance, hoping to make progress on gym-doing the unenviable job of cleaning down 30 years of farm dust+ what ever mess I've made too

 

[alex_cycles]

I do know quite a bit about how that works as I've seen a looooot of my own graphs. Not really complicated.

Effort above your critical power - tank depletes. Effort below your critical power - tank replenishes. The more over/under CP you go, the quicker the depletion/replenishment. Recovery is very quick early on and then tapers off - i.e. If you spend yourself and then drop down to zone 2, first 60s will replenish (e.g.) 10kJ, but the next 60s just 5kJ, the next 60s just 2.5kJ, etc.

My W'bal from the Innsbruckring ZRL race:

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My W'bal from ZRL TTT:

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[EDIT]: Analysing these after the event is really useful - I think it gives more insight into how hard/smart you raced than any other graph.

You can see, for example, that in Innsbruck I didn't go all out on the Legsnapper - I left a decent chunk of energy in the tank for the subsequent sprint - which in hindsight was a good move. I don't deplete myself until the very end.

As for TTT, you can clearly see where we went from 3-man pulls until the KOM to all-team pulls. However, you can also see that over time my tank balance actually increases - means I could have done longer pulls then I did.

I've just found out how to do this on intervals.icu. Excellent. Now a quick look at Tuesday's ZRL on Neon Flats shows me what happened when I emptied the tank by going early on Castle Park iteration 1...

Now I want it displayed in real time
Dammit! I'll have to make another custom field on my Garmin if I want that.

 

[bridgy]

There was an idea but not too many takers. I'm signed up for 17:00 3-laps but looks like there's also 3 people for the 18:00 3- and 2-laps.


This person probably doesn't even know they're on ZP.

I'll probably try and join you in the 5pm one

 

[Peter Salt]

I've just found out how to do this on intervals.icu. Excellent. Now a quick look at Tuesday's ZRL on Neon Flats shows me what happened when I emptied the tank by going early on Castle Park iteration 1...

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Now I want it displayed in real time
Dammit! I'll have to make another custom field on my Garmin if I want that.

If you go any deeper down that rabbit hole, you'll end up lost forever, Alex

Yeah, during the race on Tuesday, I felt I couldn't really go on Castle Park right after Alley. I let it go on both laps - did just enough to hold on to the lead group - and instead sprinted properly (or at least tried) on the second pass on each lap. Looking at the W'bal graph for that event, it was definitely the right move.

I think W'bal would be very difficult to follow during a sprint. A good effort can deplete around 12kJ in 15s for me - that gauge would go down faaast. It could be really handy on long climbs and TTTs though.

 

[alex_cycles]

If you go any deeper down that rabbit hole, you'll end up lost forever, Alex

Yeah, during the race on Tuesday, I felt I couldn't really go on Castle Park right after Alley. I let it go on both laps - did just enough to hold on to the lead group - and instead sprinted properly (or at least tried) on the second pass on each lap. Looking at the W'bal graph for that event, it was definitely the right move.

I think W'bal would be very difficult to follow during a sprint. A good effort can deplete around 12kJ in 15s for me - that gauge would go down faaast. It could be really handy on long climbs and TTTs though.

I don't think it would be any use during a sprint. The main use for it would be to see if you're ready for the next one (in theory)
But the legs and lungs do a fairly good job of indicating that as well.

 

[CXRAndy]

I think we all know when the tank is empty during a race. No way I could pay attention during a sprint

 

[alex_cycles]

I think we all know when the tank is empty during a race. No way I could pay attention during a sprint

Exactly. The only thing you can pay attention to in a sprint is either catching that b'strd in front or staying ahead of that b'strd behind

 

[Whorty]

I think we all know when the tank is empty during a race. No way I could pay attention during a sprint

Despite my HR hitting 197, and lungs burning due to asthma ... it's always my legs that give up first!!

 

[CXRAndy]

Despite my HR hitting 197, and lungs burning due to asthma ... it's always my legs that give up first!!

My breathing usually stops my maximal efforts

 

[bobinski]

What we saw of Scotland on stage 8 looked great- even on an iPad. Great TTT or itt course. Excellent zzzzzzzz2 course as well. Just pop a film on.