Zwift Chat

[<Tommy>]

Not for everyone though, just ask Tommy.Darn he just posted

To be fair, and I’m happy to be corrected on this. I’ve seen and heard a lot of people on this forum doing plans. And Martin is the only person I can think of who’s sustained it and maintained the progress he’s made. And he’s doing it for set goals.

Most plans I see just smell the same way quick fix weight loss plans do. Unsustainable in my opinion. Maybe good if you’re training for a specific event. But if not just do what you enjoy because then you’ll maintain it.

I her what you’re saying for what it’s worth Bob. The plan you aiming at makes more sense to me than a performance boost type plan.

(As always just my opinion and happy to be told I’m wrong!)

 

[<Tommy>]

Very preachy of me actually… it’s a new year after all so maybe it’s the natural time for the new years training plan resolutions, and I shouldn’t be too negative…

 

[mjd1988]

Cheers all ...hmm yes I'll have to see how it would fit in with ZRL.

 

[cyberknight]

1st club ride tonight on zwift , 24 miles apparently and its a no drop ride no idea how that works so it should be fun , i still haven't got hold of giving thumbs up etc but i have to do a big lean and click on the laptop , i do need to get a phone mount .

Lasts night effort ...

 

[Norry1]

1st club ride tonight on zwift , 24 miles apparently and its a no drop ride no idea how that works so it should be fun , i still haven't got hold of giving thumbs up etc but i have to do a big lean and click on the laptop , i do need to get a phone mount .

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Nice one.

Many opt for a side-desk, like a music stand or similar to put phones, food, extra drinks etc. There are expensive ones you can buy but you can usually find something in the house that works.

 

[Legs]

@cyberknight , I’ve got a setup like this on my handlebars, which I use mainly for activating power ups but can also be used for any of the blue menu-bar functions. I couldn’t get Andy’s software to download with my antivirus software - I’ll try to find the link for the programme I use.

https://zwiftinsider.com/bluetooth-eracing-controller/

The Bluetooth media button set me back less than a tenner.

 

[cyberknight]

Didn't know that was possible. Anyone know?


Nice one.

Many opt for a side-desk, like a music stand or similar to put phones, food, extra drinks etc. There are expensive ones you can buy but you can usually find something in the house that works.

the laptop currently sits on the upside down washing up bowl

 

[Legs]

This is my pain cave of shame… my laptop usually sits on top of the Neo box which is currently covered with paintbrushes, filler, bits of sandpaper…. The floor is covered in tools, boxes of fixings and cans of paint! 😕

 

[cyberknight]

This is my pain cave of shame… my laptop usually sits on top of the Neo box which is currently covered with paintbrushes, filler, bits of sandpaper…. The floor is covered in tools, boxes of fixings and cans of paint! 😕

least you have room mines in the kitchen so i have to take it down and i can guarantee i will be interrupted numerous times every ride

 

[bobinski]

To be fair, and I’m happy to be corrected on this. I’ve seen and heard a lot of people on this forum doing plans. And Martin is the only person I can think of who’s sustained it and maintained the progress he’s made. And he’s doing it for set goals.

Most plans I see just smell the same way quick fix weight loss plans do. Unsustainable in my opinion. Maybe good if you’re training for a specific event. But if not just do what you enjoy because then you’ll maintain it.

I her what you’re saying for what it’s worth Bob. The plan you aiming at makes more sense to me than a performance boost type plan.

(As always just my opinion and happy to be told I’m wrong!)

FWIW i have used a training plan post knee op, then a personalised training plan in 2020 and finally the zwift academy last year. I can't say for sure but the TP and the discipline the plan imposed post op, and after 8 weeks with my knee in a brace, really helped me get to a point where i was cycling up mountains outside Girona 3 months later. Another 3 months of Sufferfest training and i was able to ride reasonably well in the Alps...

I think at my age i benefit from the discipline a TP imposes and the calculations of effort as against accumulating fatigue. Sufferfest/SYSTM does all that and it works for me.That said i couldn't do a traineroad TP at all.

The personalised TP i did in layte 2019/2020 in anticipation of Flanders, a trip to Nice etc, allowed for a race a week, TTT's on a thursday. I hit my best ever ftp as i edged towards the end of the plan. Then covid hit and trips fell away so I started racing on tuesdays as well and ended up overtrained and pretty much ruined. I remember the race when it really hit home and where i just avoided coming last. It took a few months to recover-old age is a bastard.Then last year I did the zwift academy just to get a bit of structure back and a got an immdiadte small ftp boost. So, it works for me .

If i was younger and could race 2-3 times a week and recover quickly between each and continued to see improvement in power and endurance, however minimal, then i would probably just race. But i am not. As Tommy says, Martin is a great example of someone who adopts and sticks to a training plan and the benefits are obvious to see. And he's an old man too 😄

 

[Norry1]

If i was younger and could race 2-3 times a week and recover quickly between each and continued to see improvement in power and endurance, however minimal, then i would probably just race. But i am not. As Tommy says, Martin is a great example of someone who adopts and sticks to a training plan and the benefits are obvious to see. And he's an old man too 😄

Even older now Bob. I was 61 on the 2nd Jan

 

[Joffey]

least you have room mines in the kitchen so i have to take it down and i can guarantee i will be interrupted numerous times every ride

I used to ride in the kitchen but found it very hard when tea was in the oven!!

 

[Norry1]

I used to ride in the kitchen but found it very hard when tea was in the oven!!

Quite a few years ago I used to have my turbo in the loft. Boy, that used to get hot. Don't think I had a fan back in those days either.

 

[<Tommy>]

FWIW i have used a training plan post knee op, then a personalised training plan in 2020 and finally the zwift academy last year. I can't say for sure but the TP and the discipline the plan imposed post op, and after 8 weeks with my knee in a brace, really helped me get to a point where i was cycling up mountains outside Girona 3 months later. Another 3 months of Sufferfest training and i was able to ride reasonably well in the Alps...
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I think at my age i benefit from the discipline a TP imposes and the calculations of effort as against accumulating fatigue. Sufferfest/SYSTM does all that and it works for me.That said i couldn't do a traineroad TP at all.

The personalised TP i did in layte 2019/2020 in anticipation of Flanders, a trip to Nice etc, allowed for a race a week, TTT's on a thursday. I hit my best ever ftp as i edged towards the end of the plan. Then covid hit and trips fell away so I started racing on tuesdays as well and ended up overtrained and pretty much ruined. I remember the race when it really hit home and where i just avoided coming last. It took a few months to recover-old age is a bastard.Then last year I did the zwift academy just to get a bit of structure back and a got an immdiadte small ftp boost. So, it works for me .

If i was younger and could race 2-3 times a week and recover quickly between each and continued to see improvement in power and endurance, however minimal, then i would probably just race. But i am not. As Tommy says, Martin is a great example of someone who adopts and sticks to a training plan and the benefits are obvious to see. And he's an old man too 😄

Well yes this is the point. Going on a training plan for a specific event or aim as you did. You get the results. No disputing that. What I’m saying is that whatever your regime, if you don’t sustain it then the results drop off. Be it a structured training plan someone’s fee you or one you’ve made yourself. So unless you’re willing to sustain training plans indefinitely or have a specific aim, then better to do something you can sustain. Do something you enjoy.

Overtraining is overtraining. A 21 year old can overtrain, an 80 year old can overtrain. Your age is your age. There’s people older than you who can take more load and people younger who can take less….

 

[Legs]

This is my pain cave of shame… my laptop usually sits on top of the Neo box which is currently covered with paintbrushes, filler, bits of sandpaper…. The floor is covered in tools, boxes of fixings and cans of paint! 😕

My plan is to decamp to the outbuilding when

the zwifting room becomes a dining room (the outbuilding’s full of stuff atm though…)