Zwift Chat

[alex_cycles]

Anyone got a Zwift Ride?

My good lady has recently got into cycling and has done over 500 miles with me outdoors in the past few months. She is loving it and now wants to get an indoor set-up.

We'll need 2 rigs as we may well end up wanting to ride at the same time so I won't be sharing my Tacx Neo 2T. She doesn't have a second bike so I'm thinking of getting a Zwift Ride. I wondered if anyone has one or has any opinions on them?

Only a couple of things I've heard. One is that they can occasionally have dodgy cranks, but they've probably sorted that out by now.
I've heard of a couple of people who had that with the early version (they got replaced no issues).

Other than that I think people seem happy with them

 

[steverob]

Provisionally the team looks like they came 4th overall.

4th place confirmed now the Finish line points are in, but even better is that we've increased our lead at the top of the league, because all the teams that beat us yesterday had really poor TTT's, while the good time-trialists (except us) seemed to struggle with the Points race format.

 

[Girafitti]

Anyone got a Zwift Ride?

My good lady has recently got into cycling and has done over 500 miles with me outdoors in the past few months. She is loving it and now wants to get an indoor set-up.

We'll need 2 rigs as we may well end up wanting to ride at the same time so I won't be sharing my Tacx Neo 2T. She doesn't have a second bike so I'm thinking of getting a Zwift Ride. I wondered if anyone has one or has any opinions on them?

I have one, love it. Easy setup, full customisation. Very silent!

 

[CXRAndy]

Great results for you guys across multiple teams and cats

Another Z2 ride today, Z2 for an hour then another pacer came by slightly faster, I almost by accident drifted away with them for another 20 mins. Low cadence today.

 

[bridgy]

4th place confirmed now the Finish line points are in, but even better is that we've increased our lead at the top of the league, because all the teams that beat us yesterday had really poor TTT's, while the good time-trialists (except us) seemed to struggle with the Points race format.

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Just keep in mind teams are getting a second shot at the stage 1 TTT if they want it so your league competitors might take advantage of that!

 

[CXRAndy]

Zwift update emoji in game and segment placings centralised in HUD position


View: https://youtu.be/KtE9g95_8I0?si=KwvkS4YBdjO2yyJc

 

[bridgy]

Zwift update emoji in game and segment placings centralised in HUD position


View: https://youtu.be/KtE9g95_8I0?si=KwvkS4YBdjO2yyJc

Emojis - absolute game-changer

 

[alex_cycles]

Emojis - absolute game-changer

We need another new font to go with them

 

[Legs]

I've just signed up with a team for the upcoming ZRL (starts next Tuesday).

The team is in the Cat B "Development" division which is for Cat B riders with a zFTP of less than 3.74w/kg and zMAP of less than 4.53w/kg (basically a "low B" Cat). We're entered in Shamrock league which is 6.30pm UK time.

There's still a couple of slots available for the squad if anyone is interested and fits the criteria and can do the timeslot?

I think the race last night put my zMAP up to 329w/72.5kg = 4.538w/kg... do I need to put on half a kilo before next week?
Cos I stood on the scales after my ride this morning (admittedly a bit dehydrated, and before breakfast), and...

 

[bridgy]

I think the race last night put my zMAP up to 329w/72.5kg = 4.538w/kg... do I need to put on half a kilo before next week?
Cos I stood on the scales after my ride this morning (admittedly a bit dehydrated, and before breakfast), and...

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Well I did wonder if something like this would happen!

 

[Legs]

@alex_cycles, you’re the guy who knows about this kind of thing: is there a particular duration of effort I can do to lower my zMAP (or is that only for zFTP), or do I have to eat lots of cake?

 

[alex_cycles]

@alex_cycles, you’re the guy who knows about this kind of thing: is there a particular duration of effort I can do to lower my zMAP (or is that only for zFTP), or do I have to eat lots of cake?

zMAP is 4-8 minutes but I don't think you can lower it. Doing a hard zMAP effort CAN lower zFTP though because of the way they model the curve. But if you're zMAPped out of Cat there's no coming back. I think changing weight after the fact doesn't work as the weight at the time of the effort is logged. (They also implemented a system where the average weight of all your max efforts is used to prevent abuse).

You still look like you're in B though and having done 2 races in the current round, you should be safe for the rest of the round.
Cake will be an option if you expect to up your zMAP watts though

 

[Legs]

zMAP is 4-8 minutes but I don't think you can lower it. Doing a hard zMAP effort CAN lower zFTP though because of the way they model the curve. But if you're zMAPped out of Cat there's no coming back. I think changing weight after the fact doesn't work as the weight at the time of the effort is logged. (They also implemented a system where the average weight of all your max efforts is used to prevent abuse).

You still look like you're in B though and having done 2 races in the current round, you should be safe for the rest of the round.
Cake will be an option if you expect to up your zMAP watts though

Does it matter that I didn’t ride in the TTT round?

 

[bridgy]

@alex_cycles, you’re the guy who knows about this kind of thing: is there a particular duration of effort I can do to lower my zMAP (or is that only for zFTP), or do I have to eat lots of cake?

I don't really know how this works in a practical sense but I assume you will be barred from being added to the next race if your zMAP is above limit at that time? (And I have no idea if there's any way of reducing it by next week!)

Interesting bit there about exceeding zFTP or zMAP thresholds during a race. How is that possible considering zFTP and zMAP are calculated via an (undisclosed) formula based on peak power for multiple different durations over the past 90 days so they're not a specific power number to exceed like the old 20 minute w/kg number was - or am I missing something obvious?! I suspect in reality WTRL do have a specific (again undisclosed) w/kg number for each category that you get penalised for exceeding in a race - in fact I think I remember reading that somewhere - but that's not the same ast zFTP or zMAP is it?

Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying that although you've nudged up your zMAP beyond cat limits, we hopefully won't be retroactively punished as a team for that race, because you still didn't exceed whatever the w/kg limit is in the actual race. But you might not be able to race in the remaining races unfortunately

 

[Legs]

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I don't really know how this works in a practical sense but I assume you will be barred from being added to the next race if your zMAP is above limit at that time? (And I have no idea if there's any way of reducing it by next week!)

Interesting bit there about exceeding zFTP or zMAP thresholds during a race. How is that possible considering zFTP and zMAP are calculated via an (undisclosed) formula based on peak power for multiple different durations over the past 90 days so they're not a specific power number to exceed like the old 20 minute w/kg number was - or am I missing something obvious?! I suspect in reality WTRL do have a specific (again undisclosed) w/kg number for each category that you get penalised for exceeding in a race - in fact I think I remember reading that somewhere - but that's not the same ast zFTP or zMAP is it?

Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying that although you've nudged up your zMAP beyond cat limits, we hopefully won't be retroactively punished as a team for that race, because you still didn't exceed whatever the w/kg limit is in the actual race. But you might not be able to race in the remaining races unfortunately

... unless I eat lots of cake.