I'm no expert, but I don't see anything wrong with that. His cadence doesn't drop and the power spike could easily be because there was a gradient, and/or dropped the gear and grinded.
Strange
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I'm no expert, but I don't see anything wrong with that. His cadence doesn't drop and the power spike could easily be because there was a gradient, and/or dropped the gear and grinded.
Strange
Accidentally did a Masters race today 😁. I am playing at filling in my Power Duration Curve (indoor) and decided to have a bash at my best 1 min power. I like the Legsnapper for this duration and there just happened to be a Masters Race in Innsbruck when I was free.
View: https://youtu.be/ZOku13iYeo0?si=SgeYpmIE1vKQ4bnQ
View: https://youtu.be/ZOku13iYeo0?si=SgeYpmIE1vKQ4bnQ
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alex_cycles
Guru
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I think ladder runs an algorithm on the .FIT files in the background, whereas all other series rely on people reporting a rider and then further manual investigation. We had one reported in DRS this week, with flat-top peaks for the whole race. Clear case of sticky watts.
What is impossible to prove one way or another is whether it's intentional or machine issues etc. But that doesn't matter, it's a DQ either way in cases like this. So we avoid using the C word (cheating) - as cheating requires intent.
I'd agree that just looking at that, it's not one where it's particularly obvious that there's a problem.
I do believe Ladder Race control do manually check even though the initial flag is automated. Your rider might get more detail if he puts the ride file through Zwiftalizer?
I can appreciate the frustration if it's an equipment issue and he's not aware of any issues with his Wattbike
No video I know off but at one stage in the race he got of the front and I was watching his W/kg compared to the chasers and saw nothing untoward .it certainly wasn't sticky Watts as most people now it . Just a spiky power file . The problem if it's equipment related and his watt bike is serviced and calibrated what can he do ,the only way to find out if it's a 1 off as this was his first ladder race is to do another and see if you get DQed !! again . Don't think him or the captain have had much feedback from the organisers
I just took a closer look at the power graph on Zwiftpower and to be fair you can see lots of flat spots where power stays flat for a few seconds - this isn't normal. I guess that's what Ladder Race control have picked up on. As you pointed out he was pedaling all the time so I don't think he was attempting to exploit it or anything but it does look like something was going on. Couple of examples:
Yes the guy who runs the teams I ride for had a deep delve and spotted the same things as you , we all believe he wasnt doing anything to gain an advantage but the issue is equipment related ,the question is how to fix it for future races
Yeah, sorry I don't know what the fix is.
Make sure software up to date (although probably is I assume if just been serviced)?
Could it be signal dropouts - either wifi or bluetooth/ant+connection? Might be worth checking those are as secure and stable as possible.
If all that's ruled out, maybe query it with Wattbike customer service?
No haven't seen any ,but this round is all about getting man 4 round as quick as possible so normal tactics don't really apply
mjd1988
Guru
Thanks yeah just wondering in general, quite like the ZRL ones. Pretending to have strategy then pedalling hard uphill and drafting the rest for every single race
