Accy cyclist
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- Location
- The hills of Accrington
I don't think goat poo houses would be allowed here because of health and safety laws. As you know we do live in a nanny(goat)state!
Shortage of bricks
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I don't think goat poo houses would be allowed here because of health and safety laws. As you know we do live in a nanny(goat)state!
The government caused the problem in the first place. The green policies of this and the last government are making it impossible for energy intensive business like brickmaking to operate in the UK.
Profpointy
Legendary Member
Shortage of bricks is the fault of lefties - of course it is. I had a puncture last week - that'd be them as well
Who said anything about lefties? That's just projection on your part. I'm not making any value judgements about any of these policies but UK politicians of all descriptions seem to fail to realise that actions have consequences, sometimes very perverse ones.
The whole point of increasing energy costs is to reduce energy usage and that will inevitably affect energy intensive business. The wider question of whether this is a good or bad thing is a question for society as a whole. Germany has done the same thing but protected its industry by putting the cost disproportionately onto domestic users. They've made a conscious decision that people will have to shiver a bit in winter in order to keep the BMW production line going.
In Britain the politicians just don't seem to think things through like that. They increase energy costs and are then surprised when aluminium production moves overseas. Glass production is going the same way. The energy usage and environmental impact is still there but now it's coming out of a coal-fired station in India or China Of course, it's easier for the higher value products to move away but it's a bit more complicated in brickmaking. The increased production costs come up against increased demand due to an ongoing credit boom, the difficulties of transporting a heavy and bulky product long distances and desire to push the population up over 70 million, and all of that channeled through a restrictive planning system. All of which are the result of some politician who thinks he can wave a wand and make it so. This has resulted first in much capacity being irretrievably taken out of the industry and then a resulting supply squeeze that has stimulated prices to a point where there's now scramble to re-open any remaining sites that haven't been redeveloped including ones that were previously uncompetitive.
If you make something more expensive then, all things being equal, people will buy less of it.
The whole point of increasing energy costs is to reduce energy usage and that will inevitably affect energy intensive business. The wider question of whether this is a good or bad thing is a question for society as a whole. Germany has done the same thing but protected its industry by putting the cost disproportionately onto domestic users. They've made a conscious decision that people will have to shiver a bit in winter in order to keep the BMW production line going.
In Britain the politicians just don't seem to think things through like that. They increase energy costs and are then surprised when aluminium production moves overseas. Glass production is going the same way. The energy usage and environmental impact is still there but now it's coming out of a coal-fired station in India or China Of course, it's easier for the higher value products to move away but it's a bit more complicated in brickmaking. The increased production costs come up against increased demand due to an ongoing credit boom, the difficulties of transporting a heavy and bulky product long distances and desire to push the population up over 70 million, and all of that channeled through a restrictive planning system. All of which are the result of some politician who thinks he can wave a wand and make it so. This has resulted first in much capacity being irretrievably taken out of the industry and then a resulting supply squeeze that has stimulated prices to a point where there's now scramble to re-open any remaining sites that haven't been redeveloped including ones that were previously uncompetitive.
If you make something more expensive then, all things being equal, people will buy less of it.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
It's not that the UK population aren't paying for significantly higher energy costs Genau, they are but the utility shareholders are taking it all out instead of it being targeted to offset high-energy demand heavy industry and through taxation to promote green industries in tandem
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